Lilies forum: Fasciation?

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Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Nhra_20
Jul 5, 2016 11:11 AM CST
This isn't my personal plant, but this was too neat to not share. Pictures used with permission. Owner says this is 'Red Hot'
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Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Jul 5, 2016 11:13 AM CST

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Now that is downright scary lookin'!
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Jul 5, 2016 3:05 PM CST

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'Red Hot' an OT, has a high incidence of doing this. My mom had this bulb and it was this way every year (which in and of itself is weird, I think). That one is loaded with blooms. Wow!
Tracey
Name: Joshua
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Australis
Jul 5, 2016 4:25 PM CST
Good grief. That is insane! I wonder how the bulb manages to support such excessive growth and blooms.
Name: Rick R.
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Leftwood
Jul 5, 2016 7:58 PM CST
Australis said: I wonder how the bulb manages to support such excessive growth and blooms.


I've often wondered that myself. In theory, the bulb should be completely spent. I can only speculate that the "overdrive" of flower production also spills over into growth of other parts of the plant, too. The "adrenaline" (whatever that may be) must also effect the roots and bulb.
Name: Joshua
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Australis
Jul 5, 2016 8:05 PM CST
I'm completely guessing here, but I wonder if it's caused by a failure to regulate cell growth as such (similar to cancer) and so all parts of the plant would then exhibit excessive growth. Surely it must put a strain on the plant, though.
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Jul 5, 2016 8:16 PM CST
Well now, we always tell people that the plant returns to normal the next year---but, that's not always true. Some do parish. I've always been taught that normal blooming is even stressful to a plant. I can imagine blooming in fasciation must be very, very stressful. I've never dug one to experiment, but a fascinated lily must have one hell of a lot of stem roots to feed all that growth. Shrug!
Name: Tracey
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magnolialover
Jul 5, 2016 8:36 PM CST

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I have wondered too if it is something in the soil. Red Hot has never done that for me, but my parents home is in an area with particularly rich soil. Some of the best soil in the world,we have been told, due to the glaciers. Red Hot never had a "normal" year there. In the end, it had a virus and had to be tossed. But 5 years and always fasciated.
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Name: della
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dellac
Jul 6, 2016 2:17 AM CST
'Red Hot' looking more like Cousin It!

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patweppler
Jul 6, 2016 5:10 AM CST
Holy that is unreal.......
sure has tons of blooms coming.......
should be interesting to see it bloom.......
I read that the main cause of this is the weather usually........
My house is soil in the new beds is somewhat rich too though
seen a few of these this year

3pete
Jul 7, 2016 8:11 AM CST
Nhra_20
Wow! Are you going to ask for permission for
some photos while it's in bloom also?
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Nhra_20
Jul 7, 2016 8:26 AM CST
3pete he says when it blooms he will post pictures where i saw these pictures so I sure hope he does
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jmorth
Jul 10, 2016 3:39 AM CST
I was under the impression that early injury usually induced by mechanical or natural factors to the growing point initiated the fasciation presentation, gone the next year. I've only personally have seem a Dame's Rocket wildflower to do. That was last spring - a very top heavy bloom grouping on a thin long flat stem.
At the the St Louis Lily show, their last display 'education' table was of a fasciated lily.
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Name: Dave
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Nhra_20
Jul 19, 2016 5:11 PM CST
Update on fasciation
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Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Nhra_20
Jul 27, 2016 1:19 AM CST
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Name: Joshua
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Australis
Jul 27, 2016 1:23 AM CST
Thanks for the updates, Dave.

I am amazed it is physically able to support all that without either tipping over or pulling itself out of the ground.
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Name: ursula
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Mutisia
Jul 27, 2016 8:47 AM CST
The fragrance must be overwhelming!
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jmorth
Jul 27, 2016 10:45 AM CST
Amazing!
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.

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patweppler
Jul 28, 2016 8:23 AM CST
wow is amazing.....that would be quite the stem to take in and put in a vase.......

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