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Jul 9, 2016 9:35 PM CST
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As you can see the leaves are drooping down and are shriveling up. Location is right next to the window. Please help!

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Jul 10, 2016 12:46 AM CST
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What's the compost like? Could be drought or overwatering.
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Jul 10, 2016 9:17 AM CST
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That is a succulent Sempervivum. They want very little water, and are quick to die if they get too much. The leaves shrivel, because the roots have stopped getting water to the leaves, due to rotting. That is what makes the question of over and underwatering hard to diagnose. If the soil has dried out now, just pull way back on water. If the soil is still quite wet, I would be pro active, and maybe crazy...but I would gently remove the plant from the wet soil and let it dry on a paper towel. I would repot in cactus type soil, because I would feel the plant was going to die if I didn't.
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Jul 10, 2016 2:30 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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Looks like an Echeveria. Agree with the assessment that the leaves need moisture. We just don't know why. Either there was none given for a while and it wilted or the roots were compromised and were no longer able to deliver moisture to foliage.
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Jul 10, 2016 3:27 PM CST
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Thanks everyone. The soil is in fact dry, so it could actually be under watering — I water it once a week. Hopefully it recovers … Crossing Fingers!
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Jul 10, 2016 4:27 PM CST
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I do too! Best vibes!
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Jul 11, 2016 12:50 PM CST
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Yes, an echeveria, not a sempervivum and I agree, underwatered. Sometimes a quick watering just runs right through the pot and doesn't really hydrate the roots enough so maybe a good soaking when you notice the soil dry.
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Jul 11, 2016 1:41 PM CST
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The plant wants more light now, so it is etiolated, growing tall and lanky, If it were my plant, I would bring it outdoors but in part shade first to acclimate. You may water thoroughly and leave it alone and observe. I do not know what succulent that is, some succulents naturally go semi-dormant in summer, and exhibits that similar drooping of leaves as it tries to remove older, lower leaves, and will just form a tighter rosette at the upper part, and keep it tight and small. Active growing ensues when Fall weather returns. If it is indeed dormant, then allow longer watering intervals, it will not perk up till the cooler temps return.
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Jul 13, 2016 4:25 PM CST
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Doing much better now! I'll try to post pictures soon.
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Jul 17, 2016 3:14 PM CST
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Jul 17, 2016 3:18 PM CST
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Certainly well on its way to happiness. Hurray!
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Aug 18, 2016 8:43 AM CST
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Uh, it's doing this to me again! It happened overnight. Over-watering this time?
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Aug 18, 2016 10:36 AM CST
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@bwv998, if you do nothing more, please convince yourself to get out of the habit of watering your plants, and particularly your succulents, on a regular schedule. When the top (full) 1" of potting media is dry, water the plants and do so thoroughly. You want to see plenty of water flowing out the drainage holes. What are the specific conditions you are growing this particular plant in?
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Aug 18, 2016 4:28 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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Above you said it was right next to a window, but I don't think it was established which way the window faces. And do you mean right next to the actual glass of the window, being on the windowsill, or somewhere farther away?
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Aug 18, 2016 5:11 PM CST
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purpleinopp said:Above you said it was right next to a window, but I don't think it was established which way the window faces. And do you mean right next to the actual glass of the window, being on the windowsill, or somewhere farther away?


What do you mean exactly? Smiling I leave it next right next to the window, on the windowsill. I only brought the plant away to take a good photo.
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Aug 19, 2016 8:53 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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If it's an E/S/W window, the sun should shine directly into it, right onto the plant.
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Aug 19, 2016 9:37 AM CST
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Name: Der Thomaskantor
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purpleinopp said:If it's an E/S/W window, the sun should shine directly into it, right onto the plant.


It does that in the afternoon.
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Aug 19, 2016 10:09 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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A west window is as much natural light as possible through a window.
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Aug 19, 2016 10:18 AM CST
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Name: Der Thomaskantor
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purpleinopp said:A west window is as much natural light as possible through a window.


It's facing west right now and always has been. Should I cut down its water intake? Loosing leaves now...
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Aug 19, 2016 10:45 AM CST
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drdawg said:if you do nothing more, please convince yourself to get out of the habit of watering your plants, and particularly your succulents, on a regular schedule.


This advice is not helpful for the succulents that I grow and does not apply to indoor succulents at all. Indoor succulents enjoy regular water year round and there is absolutely no reason to vary the schedule if temperatures inside are mild and stable, and the light is good. The goal is to achieve the important cycle of wet to dry on a consistent basis, and its regularity is quite reliable under controlled conditions.
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