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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Jul 10, 2016 9:15 PM CST

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I'm beginning to sound like a broken record. So sorry. Sad
We need to take a look at 'Strider'. It appears that most of us have an incorrect semp for this one.
Here is a description of what it should look like.
"Long, tapered oxblood red leaves. Open leaves. Satin. Rosettes become quite large."

@JungleShadows
Kevin maybe you can help us find out way through this one?

We have this one from Erwin Geiger


From Fernwood


Then of course there are all the ones from here in the U.S.
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Name: Julia
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springcolor
Jul 10, 2016 10:35 PM CST

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This is mine tonight. A stunning semp.
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Name: Patty
Washington State (Zone 8b)
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Patty
Jul 10, 2016 10:49 PM CST
Confused
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jul 10, 2016 11:13 PM CST

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Oh no, Patty is frowning again. Sad Group hug
Name: Patty
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Patty
Jul 10, 2016 11:23 PM CST
That is the quizzical face. I'm starting to think I can't tell one from the other Shrug!
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Jul 11, 2016 12:18 AM CST
Lynn I have some from SMG and some from you and they look the same - so, do you think you have the correct plant??
It is annoying finding more NOIDs but I think it is better in the long run to be correct!!
Lynn and all of us who are caring about this are doing a good thing for semp collecting!! I tip my hat to you.
Thanks!
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Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Jul 11, 2016 2:53 AM CST

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Well mine certainly looks nothing like Erwin's, and is rather on the small size too.
Good work Lynn!
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Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
JungleShadows
Jul 11, 2016 7:38 AM CST
The leaves of Strider are fairly long and narrow and a rich wine red. Polly had plants of this from Betty Bronow before it was introduced as a gift. It is a seedling of 'Atropurpureum'. It should never look compact or be small. Howard's plants fit my mental image of this plant.

I'm not sure why this one got mixed up. It is fairly distinctive but others like 'Raspberry Ice' are also a mess and that is also distinctive.

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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jul 11, 2016 10:05 AM CST

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It appears that we have lots of photos to clear out of this database entry.
My 'Strider' came from SMG also Greg. Like Chris said, mine is also a small semp, so I know mine is incorrect. Sad

Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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springcolor
Jul 11, 2016 10:13 AM CST
Anyone have the real one?
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Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Jul 11, 2016 10:45 AM CST
I believe I got mine from Lynn when I visited during the perennial plant sale last September. The rosettes appear to be on the smaller side, although I have only had this plant since September of last year. Still, that's plenty of time for them to have sized up.

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I guess I too have an impostor. Let's keep after 'em.

Mine looks very much like the July picture Chris posts on her Cubits store.
http://cubits.org/TheSempervivumPatch/store/view/1717/

It also bears a striking resemblance to my 'Bronco'.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jul 11, 2016 12:37 PM CST

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Yep, Tim you have the incorrect one. Sorry Group hug
I am not sure any of the U.S. nurseries have the correct one?
Although the spring photo on the SMG site mite be correct? It states that it is a medium sized semp.
http://www.smgsucculents.com/Sempervivum%20Strider
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Jul 11, 2016 1:30 PM CST
SMG's is incorrect - at least the one I recieved from them, but it is possible that the real plant is in his collection, just not what he is sending out. Tim I do think what we all have for Strider is Bronco
Thanks Kevin for your input!
I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Jul 11, 2016 1:31 PM CST

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I agree with you Tim & Greg, sure looks like Bronco to me too.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jul 11, 2016 2:11 PM CST

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Just went out and looked at my 'Bronco' and fake 'Strider'. I completely agree, it appears to be the very same semp in all aspects.
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Jul 11, 2016 2:21 PM CST
And this is also the semp that Young's was sending out as 'Santino' in case anyone on here ordered that from them.
I tip my hat to you.
Plants bring me peace and calm, more of what we all need Smiling
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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goldfinch4
Jul 11, 2016 2:27 PM CST

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Sad Well, at least it isn't a NOID, it's Bronco!
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Jul 11, 2016 2:38 PM CST
I know!! Hooray for small things! nodding
Plants bring me peace and calm, more of what we all need Smiling
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
JungleShadows
Jul 11, 2016 3:49 PM CST
I'm glad there are at least a few of us still alive from the "good ol' days" that can say "No that's not it". 'Silverine' is another that is a mess and that one is also distinctive.

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Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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Jul 11, 2016 6:19 PM CST
We need to keep Kevin very healthy... Whistling

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