Daylilies forum: Lost Plant?

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Name: Kelli
Canoga Park, CA, Sunset 19 (Zone 10a)
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Kelli
Jul 25, 2016 9:49 AM CST
My favorite daylily was looking bad. It turns out that it was growing in a pot with no drainage. The soil was putrid. I went to replant it in fresh soil and new pot and when I went to take it out of the old pot, the crown came off of the roots I planted the crown and the roots. Will it grow back or have I lost it?
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Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Jul 25, 2016 10:18 AM CST
The crown and roots separated? If so, there is a possibility that the crown will grow new roots if it isn't rotted. The roots will not produce a new crown, so once separated from the crown, the roots will die.
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Name: Kelli
Canoga Park, CA, Sunset 19 (Zone 10a)
Where summer is winter
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Kelli
Jul 25, 2016 10:23 AM CST
Yes, the crown and roots separated. The crown doesn't have much life in it. The leaves are mostly brown, but it is not rotted.
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Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Jul 25, 2016 10:56 AM CST
If the crown is not soft and/or mushy, then there is a slim chance of saving the seedling. But being such a young plant, I wouldn't get my hopes up. I would transplant it close to the surface of the potting mix and water with water + H2O2. And then wait and see if it survives and sends up new leaves.
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Polymerous
Jul 25, 2016 10:03 PM CST
Sorry for your possible loss. Crying It must especially hurt given that it was your favorite.

(I just discovered today that I almost certainly lost a seedling that I just potted up last week. On investigation the (not growing) foliage pulled right off and the crown was all mushy. I yanked the seedling from its pot, scraped out the center of the crown and rinsed it (and the roots), then sprayed an off-the-shelf cleaner with bleach over and in the crown, and left it out to dry overnight. I'm not expecting any miracles, though... but maybe (given that it is a seedling) it might be for the best if it is truly dead... we don't need to be propagating weakness. It galls me, though, given that it was - at least for another year - a keeper.)
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 25, 2016 10:10 PM CST
Kelli If the soil was putrid smelling then there is some anaerobic decay happening due to the lack of oxygen in the soil. chances are it's too late for your plant but it wouldn't hurt anything to try and save it.
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Name: Sabrina
Italy, Brescia (Zone 8b)
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cybersix
Jul 26, 2016 1:29 AM CST
Sorry for your seedling Kelli!
I don't like much growing plants in pots, even if it's necessary at some stage. I always have problems with potting mix. Now I found one that seems promising, but as soon as I can I plant seedlings in the ground.
I don't grow anything else but DLs. I had two cinquefoils that died from rot in the pots. Four o' clocks are dying too. Lavender died. But the ground is for DLs only!
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Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Jul 26, 2016 5:08 AM CST
I actually had a very similar situation happen with a clematis vine. And it smelled horrible!!! I literally poured H2O2 (3%) all over the top of the soil after draining the putrid standing water out of the container it was in. I had no hope, but do you know the hydrogen peroxide worked. I have that vine still to this day. I also had a disease attack the trunk of a Brugmansias too. I squirted H2O2 directly on the diseased part of the trunk. Another plant that I thought was a goner. I did that treatment twice. I even treated the soil above the roots in a desperate attempt to save this favorite plant. It took a few weeks after that, but eventually the trunk healed. I also still have that plant as well. They now are very healthy and continue to grow and bloom for me over the past several years since treating them. To me, H2O2 is a miracle product.
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 26, 2016 7:56 AM CST
Smiling Becky stands behind H2O2 like I stand behind Azomite and Gnatrol WDG as a must have product. There are very few products that work as well as these 3 in the garden. Some folks like Epsom Salt the way we like these products but I don't use it but do use espoma holly tone a lot Thumbs up
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Name: Kelli
Canoga Park, CA, Sunset 19 (Zone 10a)
Where summer is winter
Region: California Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Kelli
Jul 26, 2016 8:11 AM CST
beckygardener said:If the crown is not soft and/or mushy, then there is a slim chance of saving the seedling. But being such a young plant, I wouldn't get my hopes up. I would transplant it close to the surface of the potting mix and water with water + H2O2. And then wait and see if it survives and sends up new leaves.


O.K. Thank you. I did that. This plant has four siblings that have never bloomed. Maybe one of them will look like it. I can't go back and make a new cross because, first, I am unsure who the parents were, and second, even if I did know, they are gone. My mature daylilies died in the drought. I only have young ones in pots now.
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Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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Altheabyanothername
Jul 26, 2016 9:34 AM CST
In the movie " My Big Fat Greek Wedding" her dad sprayed Windex on everything. I have always used hydrogen peroxide on every skin problem or cut. It never really burns, if it does you know you have a problem. My kids laugh at me cause I am like the dad with hydrogen peroxide. It works well for people. It took reading over and over again Becky's uses of hydrogen peroxide D'Oh! why would I not try that on plants? But yet I didn't. Then plant emergency. Rot kills quickly, so there is nothing to lose only save. Hydrogen peroxide cleared alot of problems up for me. I have a daylily I am still treating. I am not anti-bleach. Bleach is the go to for fire ant bites. But my reasoning is take a 50/50 bleach water solution pour it on a plant, you would get severe plant damage. If you took 50/50 hydrogen peroxide water solution to the same type of plant nothing would happen to it, might even thrive. The last time I shipped some iris instead of the 10% bleach soak I used hydrogen peroxide in the water. After I had read pollution throws off the balance of oxygen and carbon dioxide in our rain for plant root, I think it is especially good to use on plants.

Hurray! Thank You! Becky for always talking about it, it just takes some of us longer to put 2+2 together!
May everyone be blessed with joy and wonder this week!
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 26, 2016 9:47 AM CST
Sharon if you ever need a home for any extra irises you may have divided please keep me in mind, I'm trying them again with no mulch to see if it helps control the rolly pollies. Thumbs up
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Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
Grace of the Lord Jesus be with all
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Altheabyanothername
Jul 26, 2016 10:01 AM CST
Daniel--I feel your pillbug pain on iris! I will send you a t-mail on what I can divide this year. Many blessings for a terrific Tuesday!

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