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Jul 28, 2016 8:03 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
No, Kadie. These are all outside. There is no rain protection whatsoever.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Jul 29, 2016 6:17 AM CST
Name: Rick
Vancouver Island, Canada (Zone 8a)
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Hey Ken,
Not that it matters, but I was confused when you mention that the plants are outside, on a bench, in front of the solarium window which has 60% sun filtering. My assumption is that they where inside to be receiving sun through this glass?
I have been reading the thread as it progressed and it was unclear.
Rick
"Many times a day I realize how much my own outer and inner life is built upon the labors of my fellow men, both living and dead, and how earnestly I must exert myself in order to give in return as much as I received"
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Jul 29, 2016 7:02 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Sorry, Rick. The old wooden bench they are on sits in front of the solarium and is outside. The sun's position around noon (and then for the rest of the afternoon) is at an angle so that the sun is now over the roof and the sun's rays go through not only the glass roof but also through the side-wall glass before falling on the adenium. I hope this photo helps.

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drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Jul 29, 2016 7:08 AM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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I LOVE that bench Ken. Smiling
Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
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Jul 29, 2016 7:09 AM CST
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
Orchids Plumerias Cactus and Succulents Region: New Jersey Region: Pennsylvania Native Plants and Wildflowers
Greenhouse Ponds Keeper of Koi Forum moderator Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Adeniums
Yes, and your picture too! Smiling
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Jul 29, 2016 7:10 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
It is kind of neat. I have a matching chair and the seat has a 10" diameter hole in it (some people call it a "potty-chair". I have a potted plumeria sitting in that hole.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Jul 29, 2016 7:12 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I did not realize I would be in the photograph. I forgot about angling the shot so that there would be no reflection. I am not much of a photographer. Whistling
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Jul 29, 2016 7:22 AM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
Birds Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Region: North Carolina Hydrangeas Hummingbirder Dog Lover
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Looks like you have moved those babies up to gallon pots????
Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
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Jul 29, 2016 8:09 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
All sizes here, 4", 6", and gallon. Some caudices as-is, and I submerged four (the forward, 1 gal. pots).
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Jul 29, 2016 8:30 AM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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Hmmm, what does submerging them do? More roots?
Minds are like parachutes; they work better when they are open.
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Jul 29, 2016 8:57 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I can't remember who posted this, but I assume either Kadie or Rick, but he/she said that by submerging the caudex, it would grow larger, more quickly. I figured it couldn't hurt. Just another experiment for me. Hurray!
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

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Jul 29, 2016 9:01 AM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
Birds Overwinters Tender Plants Indoors Region: North Carolina Hydrangeas Hummingbirder Dog Lover
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Thumbs up
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Jul 29, 2016 10:39 AM CST
Name: Joe
S.E. Wisconsin USA (Zone 5a)
Region: Wisconsin
Ken, From pictures I have seen, those look like buds to me. I just started in Adeniums about a month and a half ago, one mature (?) plant and about 40 seedlings in various stages of growth. A first time bloomer is exciting, as I have experienced with orchids. Good luck,
Joe
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Jul 29, 2016 10:46 AM CST
Name: Deborah
midstate South Carolina (Zone 8a)
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Ken, it was recommended to me a couple of years ago to lay the pots on their sides when we have excessive rainfall. This helps to avoid rot. Of course having a really fast draining soil mix will alleviate that problem. Thumbs up
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Jul 29, 2016 10:52 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I make all my own mixes and thus am able to control drainage. Perhaps that's why I have never experienced problems.................knock on wood. Crossing Fingers!
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

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Jul 29, 2016 11:56 AM CST
Name: Alice
Flat Rock, NC (Zone 7a)
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What's rainfall? Haven't seen any of that in months down here.
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Jul 29, 2016 12:19 PM CST
Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
Wet Tropical AHS Zone 12
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drdawg said:I can't remember who posted this, but I assume either Kadie or Rick, but he/she said that by submerging the caudex, it would grow larger, more quickly. I figured it couldn't hurt. Just another experiment for me. Hurray!

No, wasn't me, Ken. I do not submerge/bury caudexes.
Rick's advice to you was to keep the roots covered. http://garden.org/thread/view_...

Perhaps the post was this one:
http://garden.org/thread/view_...

Anyway, as you said, "Just another experiment for me." Experimenting is good!
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Jul 29, 2016 1:00 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
That may have been the post. Heck, Kadie, what do I know about growing adenium?.............little. Did you know I like to experiment? Whistling

I did cut off those (six) branches growing from "Green Giant" caudex. Nice and neat. What happens if I root those branches?
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Jul 29, 2016 1:40 PM CST
Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
Wet Tropical AHS Zone 12
Adeniums Tropicals Morning Glories Container Gardener Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Ken, if the stems are at least 5 inches, are of pencil thickness and taken directly off the caudex of your Green Giant, then there’s a good chance they will root for you. Place the cut stems in a dry warm place for a couple of days to allow the cut part to callus over, then plant in your preferred succulent potting mix with or without rooting hormone applied to cut.

Note: I have answered Ken's question with some trepidation…I wouldn’t want my advice to be misconstrued as applying to any/every situation with adeniums.
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Jul 29, 2016 2:21 PM CST
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
Orchids Plumerias Cactus and Succulents Region: New Jersey Region: Pennsylvania Native Plants and Wildflowers
Greenhouse Ponds Keeper of Koi Forum moderator Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Adeniums
Yes. There is probably more than one way "to skin a cat". Smiling
When I realized that I was going to lose my tall Adenium a few years ago, that after several attempts of removing rot from the major root/caudex, I figured I had nothing to lose and I simply cut several branches off and tossed the rest. Those pieces spend the Summer in a pot with water and were ignored. I took a look at them in September and realized they had all rooted. I potted all of them together into a large claypot.
They are all alive and growing, several years later. I was thinking, and that is maybe really crazy, once the branches are fat enough they are really crowding each other out, I might perhaps injure the Cambium/ outer layer a bit and see if they attach to each other and grow as one. Perhaps next Summer.
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