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Jul 31, 2016 2:45 PM CST
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Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Japanese Maples Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Pollen collector Peonies Lilies
Irises Hybridizer Hummingbirder Dog Lover Daylilies Clematis
As my blooming season is coming to a rapid end, I just wanted to say thank you to everyone that helped out, gave advice, and such along the way. As a newbie this year to lilies other than just "pretty colors for the yard". So here is to many more seasons with everyone. Hoping I can fill the lily void with success with some seeds I have aquired, and a couple from my own.
Tracey, Lorn, Rick, Jmorth, and everyone else that has helped along the way. Thanks so much!
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Jul 31, 2016 7:36 PM CST
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Name: Tracey
Midwest (Zone 5a)
Garden Photography Tomato Heads Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Pollen collector Forum moderator Hybridizer
Plant Database Moderator Cat Lover I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member Garden Ideas: Master Level Seed Starter
Glad you found us Dave. It only gets more fun once you start seeds. But I warn you, it is addicting Green Grin!
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Jul 31, 2016 7:48 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Japanese Maples Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Pollen collector Peonies Lilies
Irises Hybridizer Hummingbirder Dog Lover Daylilies Clematis
Tracey, im stressing starting seed this year. Harvest what i have from my own plants. While i label everything i put in. Especially since i have some open pollenated. But I'm just curious what they could turn into. One is Karen north open pollinated. Citronelle tiger lily open pollinated. My own Crosses are graffity ×eyeliner , triumphator x holland beauty. And orange sensation xmatrix.
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Jul 31, 2016 7:48 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Japanese Maples Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Pollen collector Peonies Lilies
Irises Hybridizer Hummingbirder Dog Lover Daylilies Clematis
Oh forgot to ask tracey, is there a name for the seed mix at flower factory?
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Jul 31, 2016 7:59 PM CST
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Name: Tracey
Midwest (Zone 5a)
Garden Photography Tomato Heads Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Pollen collector Forum moderator Hybridizer
Plant Database Moderator Cat Lover I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member Garden Ideas: Master Level Seed Starter
They call it "potting mix". They are I open until the end of September I think.
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Jul 31, 2016 8:16 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Japanese Maples Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Pollen collector Peonies Lilies
Irises Hybridizer Hummingbirder Dog Lover Daylilies Clematis
K. I'm gonna get some tomorrow. Maybe they will have some extra pots i can buy too
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Jul 31, 2016 10:22 PM CST
central Illinois
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 2
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Thanks for the nod Dave; wishing you continued success.
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Aug 1, 2016 12:13 AM CST
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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May you have many years of lily madness ahead, Dave! Green Grin!
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Aug 1, 2016 8:07 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
It's great to hear your enthusiasm, Dave. Thumbs up But we wouldn't all be here unless we ALL learned from each other. Maybe it's just because I'm not so interested in daylilies, etc., but I really think this is the most informative forum on the site! And that partly goes to our forum moderators who structured the lily forum with the intent of preserving useful information. Hurray!

Don't expect much from your Karen North pod. Only because I grow it and it is a convenient parent, I have tried pollenating it several times with questionable success. Not including a few unsuccessful tries in early years (and before good record keeping), these are my results.
First column=number of what looked like good seed from the pod. (some very questionable)
Second column=number of seeds that emerged.

Karen North x Dots & Dashs -- -- -- -- -- 1? -- -- -- -- --0
Karen North x Olina -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 21 -- -- -- -- --0
Karen North x Tinos - 2 pods -- -- -- -- - 8? -- -- -- -- --2
Karen North x Noid x Tinos -- -- -- -- -- - 0
Karen North x (Ilga x Stellar Light-6) - 43 -- -- -- -- 0
Karen North x (Ilga x Stellar Light-3) -14 -- -- -- -- - 1 normal pod. 90% chaff
Karen North x (Ilga x Stellar Light-6) - 22 -- -- -- -- 9 normal pod. 90% chaff
Karen North x Cathedral Windows -- -35 -- -- -- -- - 2 abnormal pod.seedlings didn't survive 1st month.
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Aug 1, 2016 8:21 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Japanese Maples Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Pollen collector Peonies Lilies
Irises Hybridizer Hummingbirder Dog Lover Daylilies Clematis
I'm enjoying myself very much. Both on this site, and in my garden. I am on other forums on NGA, but do not visit them as much. Along with looking at other various lily pages. But the people on here are truly amazing. Their willingness to help and encourage is great. Sometimes I think I probably ask a dumb question. But I'm just trying to learn what I can. The old NALS yearbooks I got are amazing. I keep trying to find a regional society around me, but WRLS seems to be inactive. And WILS, I'm not sure what to think about them. But it would be nice to have one course enough that i could join the meetings now and then
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Aug 2, 2016 6:29 AM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Oops! Made a mistake on that data set, and it's now edited for correction.
It said:
Karen North x Olina -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2 -- -- -- -- --10

Should read:
Karen North x Olina -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 21 -- -- -- -- --0
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates
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Aug 13, 2016 7:41 PM CST

So Rick, did you ever try it as a pollen parent??????
I have tried it as a pollinator for a few years now on other Langkongese hybrids and this year I have one or 2 pods developing on those, but I moved them to shade and we are still having YO-YO weather so they have appreciated the cooler moments. (not as much as me!!!) Most of the time I get no seed here even on the easy ones, EXCEPT the Western American hybrids, they are VERY happy this year and I have started seed harvest, got more than I know what to do with, there may be some OP seed on the blooming auction this fall. The butterflies LOVED them! Probably hummingbirds and moths too.
This is one making a pod I think, not going out there to look now, it is hell on earth here today

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Aug 13, 2016 9:51 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Karen North's pollen on asiatics Olina and Shirley yielded no pods. Something always gets in the way of me trying it on L. lankongense and L. duchartrei.
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates
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Aug 14, 2016 7:50 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Japanese Maples Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Pollen collector Peonies Lilies
Irises Hybridizer Hummingbirder Dog Lover Daylilies Clematis
When you have used 'Karen North' as a pod parent, did the pods swell up like they had seed Rick? Almost every pod on mine here are really fat.
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Aug 14, 2016 7:53 AM CST
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Name: Tracey
Midwest (Zone 5a)
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Typically in my experience, the North Lilies as pod parent have a lot of chaff. And then what looks good has germination issues. I keep trying though...
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Aug 14, 2016 8:05 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Japanese Maples Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Pollen collector Peonies Lilies
Irises Hybridizer Hummingbirder Dog Lover Daylilies Clematis
Thanks Tracey. So swelling pods and producing seed is common with them. Just not usually good viable seed. Which will most likely be the case here since mine were OP. I thought it was a little weird that nearly every pod on the 3 stems I have is swollen.
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Aug 14, 2016 8:18 AM CST
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Name: Tracey
Midwest (Zone 5a)
Garden Photography Tomato Heads Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Pollen collector Forum moderator Hybridizer
Plant Database Moderator Cat Lover I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member Garden Ideas: Master Level Seed Starter
I never say never. But sometimes pods look nice and fat only to be full of chaff. Even seed that looks good can have some difficulties during the germination process.

That said, in this pollinating process, you WILL have plenty of success. And who knows, maybe you have just the something I have never tried here that gives you great seed.
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Aug 14, 2016 4:40 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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They uppermost "good" pod is Karen North x Tinos. To the right is Karen North x Zeus. I did do a KN x L. duchartrei this year, that one is lowermost right and spongy. (The other turned up pods are solid.) There other "good" pod at center left is open pollenated.
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates
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Aug 15, 2016 4:38 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Japanese Maples Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Pollen collector Peonies Lilies
Irises Hybridizer Hummingbirder Dog Lover Daylilies Clematis
This is one stem of my 3 Karen North,wiry the swollen pods. All 3 stems look like this.
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Aug 15, 2016 4:44 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Japanese Maples Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Pollen collector Peonies Lilies
Irises Hybridizer Hummingbirder Dog Lover Daylilies Clematis
Lady Alice × L. Henryi var. Citrinum
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