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Aug 9, 2016 7:24 PM CST
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Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Active ever tried this? Polar let me know
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Aug 9, 2016 9:10 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
Sure, lady bugs eat aphids, just like ants do. The problem is they also slave farm aphids for food, just like ants do.
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Aug 9, 2016 9:24 PM CST
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Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Japanese Maples Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Pollen collector Peonies Lilies
Irises Hybridizer Hummingbirder Dog Lover Daylilies Clematis
So what can one do for aphids? My Tom Pouce one stem turned yellow and never gave me a flower. Had a couple other varieties do it as well. The other ones were just small first year stems. But not tom pouce. I have some notes that seem to be starting to senesce already, but they didn't turn yellow and drop all their leaves
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Aug 9, 2016 9:52 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
Spray 'em. Completely safe on even young lily seedlings only a few weeks old. Also works on Japanese beetle and will most likely work on the red lily beetle too, by contact only, though. Concerning yellow leaves-Orientals will start turning yellow anytime now.
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Aug 10, 2016 5:14 AM CST

Thanks Lorn, I was not aware of that product, good to know of something that can work on Japanese beetles and possible the red lily beetle and not harm the plants.
Another possible weapon to have in the arsenal.
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Aug 10, 2016 5:58 AM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
Yep. Keep in mind though, this 'kill by contact' which means you have to spray it directly on the insect. It is not something proactive where you can spray cover the whole plant for lasting protection. But normally a short 1 second burst is all that's needed as you see fit. A can lasts a long time. Right now, I have a few Japanese beetles on the Rose Of Sharon that I have to check on those daily. The more I can eliminate this year, the less I'll have next year. As far as Lady Bugs go, I never spray them on the outside, only inside. When I say they farm aphids like ants do, that sort of blowing it out of proportion. They only farm enough to establish and support their existence whereas ants seem to go whole hog overboard. But still, the Lady Bugs bring enough aphid eggs with them inside every fall to infest my wife's house plants and this spray takes care of both. Has a pleasant smell, too. Thumbs up
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Aug 10, 2016 7:40 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Japanese Maples Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Pollen collector Peonies Lilies
Irises Hybridizer Hummingbirder Dog Lover Daylilies Clematis
Thanks Lorn for the tip. I'll be using that one for sure. But site if i have aphids or not. But only about halfway through the season, 2 small stalks torrents yellow and the leaves feel off. Same worth tom pouce. 2 stalks eye nice and green and blooming while the third of wasted. Then 2 smaller oriental stems did the same thing. Could it be something else other than aphids?
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Aug 10, 2016 7:59 PM CST
Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Lilies Region: New York Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Level 1
Dave, it could be heat or dry conditions too.
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Aug 11, 2016 3:51 AM CST
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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Hahaha - Lorn, I was trying to imagine how you spray a lady bug on the inside, before it became clear you meant inside the house! Rolling on the floor laughing
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Aug 11, 2016 6:59 AM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
Dave, don't be too concerned about some of what you think is premature yellowing, especially on Orientals. Bulbs are doing what they do. If they don't need the leaves or if weather conditions are such they can't support them, they'll drop a few. That's normal. Then too, if the lilies in question were just planted last fall or this last spring, they're not fully acclimated and are living according to their previous locations climate schedule and time clock. Also, be aware that all smaller growth around a central plant such as offsets will always turn yellow and go into semi dormancy first before the larger main bulb does. Smiling
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