Hostas forum: Is this a hosta?

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Europe (Zone 7a)
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3mark
Aug 14, 2016 4:47 AM CST
Is this a hosta?

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If it is, an identification would be great, though even a statement that yes there are hostas that look like this will be appreciated.

Bought in a pot that read "perennial". It sure does grow like a hosta, though it didn't bloom this year, hence I'd better ask.
Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
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ViolaAnn
Aug 14, 2016 5:17 AM CST
Certainly looks like one to me. Maybe an immature Lancifolia? That's purely a guess.
Ann

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Name: Rick Moses
Derwood, MD (Zone 7b)
Region: Mid-Atlantic Region: Maryland Hostas Ferns
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RickM
Aug 14, 2016 9:34 AM CST
The leaves are too narrow to be Lancifolia. Also, Lancifolia has red in the petiole. Is it possible to post a picture of the lower half of the plant?
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Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
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ViolaAnn
Aug 14, 2016 10:16 AM CST
Are you sure about the red in lancifolia? I've never heard of that nor seen it.
I DID say immature. You can't really define a hosta by the immature leaves. Of course, if it said "hosta" it could just be an unnamed hosta seedling that popped up somewhere.
Ann

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Name: Rick Moses
Derwood, MD (Zone 7b)
Region: Mid-Atlantic Region: Maryland Hostas Ferns
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RickM
Aug 14, 2016 11:28 AM CST
Virtually all of my Lancifolia have red in the petiole, whether it's a 1-year or 10+ year old plant The other thing I'm going on is vein count. Those in @3Mark 's photo only appear to be 3-4 vein pairs, whereas Lancifolia has 5-7 pairs.

From http://www.hostamill.be/ENG/ENGCultivars/ENGLancifolia.htm

Plant: Medium
Leaf: Petiole green with a red dotted base; Tight clump with layers of arching, shiny green lanceolate leaves; 5-7 pairs of veins
Scape: Large, leaf-shaped sterile bracts at the bottom of the scape.
Flower: Lavender; anthers purple/violet.
Flowering Time: August/September
Seed: Close to sterile


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3mark
Aug 14, 2016 1:03 PM CST
Thank you for your assistance. Perhaps these additional images will be helpful, although I understand that full identification may be impossible.

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I cannot say much about the age of these plants. I got them earlier this year, they were tiny when bought, just a few small leaves each without any central point to them, but they sure had a lot of roots. The largest leaf was growing through the draining hole in the pot...
Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
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ViolaAnn
Aug 14, 2016 5:21 PM CST
Well, as I said, I'm not an expert on lancifolia - it's not in my garden, but immature leaves will often have fewer veins and in the first picture directly above, there are 4 vein pairs. But it could easily be something else.
Ann

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Name: Rick Moses
Derwood, MD (Zone 7b)
Region: Mid-Atlantic Region: Maryland Hostas Ferns
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RickM
Aug 14, 2016 6:52 PM CST
Yeah, I'm trying to figure it out. I know lancifolia because we literally have it everywhere! It's a great little utility plant. It doesn't matter if you need a quick border or to fill a hole. It's there, ready willing and growing!
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3mark
Aug 15, 2016 4:02 AM CST
Thank you for your assistance!
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3mark
Sep 10, 2016 10:55 AM CST
And so, one month later, it decided to confirm being a hosta Hilarious!

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Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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crawgarden
Sep 10, 2016 12:29 PM CST
The vein pair count typically changes as the plant matures, sure looks like a hosta to me! Think its a Lancifolia
Name: Rick Moses
Derwood, MD (Zone 7b)
Region: Mid-Atlantic Region: Maryland Hostas Ferns
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RickM
Sep 10, 2016 5:56 PM CST
@3Mark
If the leaves have red spots in the stem, it may well be lancifolia. It looks like it's getting ready to bloom, which is the right time of year for lancifolia. The flower should be a light lavender in color.

I have literally several hundred lancifolia around the yard in bloom now. The bees are lovin' it!
What a man needs in gardening is a cast-iron back, with a hinge in it. Charles Dudley Warner
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3mark
Sep 25, 2016 8:00 AM CST
For the record, I'll just say that another 2 weeks later (Sept. 25th), one bud finally opened:

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Name: Ann
Ottawa, ON Canada (Zone 5a)
Hostas Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Composter Region: Canadian Clematis
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ViolaAnn
Sep 25, 2016 2:08 PM CST
Definitely a hosta! Hurray! Hurray!
Ann

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