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Oct 13, 2011 3:51 AM CST
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Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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'Shirley Poppy' for the specie Papaver Rhoeas is confusing as it refers to a cultivar ?


Field Poppy (Papaver rhoeas)

http://www.seedaholic.com/papa...
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Oct 13, 2011 6:53 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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I think those two last entries that read (Papaver rhoeas 'Shirley Poppy') all in parentheses need to be deleted http://garden.org/plants/searc...

Myriam: You can delete them by clicking on the names, scrolling down the page and click on delete this plant. A proposal will go to the moderators to have those entries removed. Smiling

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Oct 13, 2011 7:05 AM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Yes, 'Shirley Poppy' is a cultivar, not a common name. I'll make the edits.
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Oct 13, 2011 7:06 AM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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I also deleted the other two duplicates. Smiling
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Oct 13, 2011 7:06 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Oct 13, 2011 7:46 AM CST
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Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Frogs and Toads Ferns I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Cat Lover Birds Plant Identifier
I'm confused now.. Hilarious!
I wanted to create a new entry for Papaver rhoeas 'Shirley Poppy' to move the pictures of Threegardeners as they are clearly not the specie.
Maybe I forgot to ask for the new entry, i'll have a look..

Link to the site where I found the right name for them
http://www.seedaholic.com/papa...
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Oct 13, 2011 7:47 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Frogs and Toads Ferns I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Cat Lover Birds Plant Identifier
I have no possibility to find out of my proposal for the new entry...
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Oct 13, 2011 7:57 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Frogs and Toads Ferns I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Cat Lover Birds Plant Identifier
Ah I found it, it seems my entry Papaver Rhoeas Shirley Poppy has been approved off but then when I click on it, it isn't there.. ??
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Oct 13, 2011 8:19 AM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
Myriam, it turned out that we had 3 entries for this specific plant, so I deleted the duplicates.

The final and only entry for Shirley Poppy is now here:

Field Poppy (Papaver rhoeas)
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Oct 13, 2011 8:25 AM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
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I think that the Shirley Poppy cultivar should have it's own entry. The Shirley poppies were derived from the original wild Papaver Rhoeas.

From wikipedia:

"The Shirley poppy was created from 1880 onwards by the Reverend William Wilks, vicar of the parish of Shirley in England. Wilks found in a corner of his garden where it adjoined arable fields, a variant of the field poppy that had a narrow white border around the petals. By careful selection and hybridization over many years he obtained a strain of poppies ranging in colour from white and pale lilac to pink and red, and unlike the wild poppies these had no dark blotches at the base of the petals. Further selection has given rise to semi-double and double forms, as well as flowers with a ring of contrasting colour around the edge: the picotee form."
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Oct 13, 2011 8:34 AM CST
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Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Frogs and Toads Ferns I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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I agree with Anne Lark, The Shirley poppies should have its own entry..
The wild specie Papaver rhoeas is clearly different, always have 4 dark black spots in the centre and always is fiercely red..
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Oct 13, 2011 8:45 AM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
Perpetually happy!
Keeps Goats Forum moderator Frogs and Toads Tip Photographer Keeper of Poultry I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Critters Allowed Cottage Gardener Charter ATP Member Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Region: Canadian
yep..

1) Papaver rhoeas (Flanders Field Poppy)
2) Papaver rhoeas (Shirley Poppy)
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Oct 13, 2011 8:55 AM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Fine by me. You are more familiar with this than me, so go ahead and make it happen and I'll approve the proposal(s).
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Oct 13, 2011 8:59 AM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
Perpetually happy!
Keeps Goats Forum moderator Frogs and Toads Tip Photographer Keeper of Poultry I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Critters Allowed Cottage Gardener Charter ATP Member Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Region: Canadian
It won't let me create a new one...keeps saying it already exists. I *think* you need to remove the Shirley Poppy part from the above link in order for me to create a new one.
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Oct 13, 2011 9:00 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Frogs and Toads Ferns I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Cat Lover Birds Plant Identifier
Thanks Dave! Smiling
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Oct 13, 2011 9:01 AM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
Perpetually happy!
Keeps Goats Forum moderator Frogs and Toads Tip Photographer Keeper of Poultry I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Critters Allowed Cottage Gardener Charter ATP Member Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Region: Canadian
I agree Thanks Dave!
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Oct 13, 2011 9:09 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
threegardeners said:It won't let me create a new one...keeps saying it already exists. I *think* you need to remove the Shirley Poppy part from the above link in order for me to create a new one.


What fields are you entering? Tell me the common, genus, species and cultivar that you are entering in.
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Oct 13, 2011 9:12 AM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
Perpetually happy!
Keeps Goats Forum moderator Frogs and Toads Tip Photographer Keeper of Poultry I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Critters Allowed Cottage Gardener Charter ATP Member Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Region: Canadian
It's ok now that you approved my submission. I just added the new plant and will edit when approved. The, I'll need to propose my photos be moved to the new one.
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Oct 13, 2011 9:19 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Frogs and Toads Ferns I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Cat Lover Birds Plant Identifier
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Oct 13, 2011 9:36 AM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
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