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Aug 14, 2016 9:08 PM CST
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Name: UrbanWild
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
Kentucky - Plant Hardiness Zone 7a
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We are making some major changes to our lot. A previous owner planted American holly on each end of the porch foundation. The southernmost is also about a foot from the house foundation. The northernmost is also a foot or two from the front sidewalk. Between them is about a 6 foot high privet hedge along the front porch.
The northermost holly is around 22 feet high. The southernmost is around 35 feet high. Both hollies have spreadingroots. The northernmost holly may have been responsible for the smallcrack in the front sidewalk. I am worried about both going into the foundation as well as undermining the front steps. I LOVE hollies..they are great all year, flower very early & pollinators LOVE them..and in lare winter a mockingbird, HUNDREDS of robins, and some cedar waxwingshave a feeding frenzy on the berries. I loathe privet for its invasiveness and the fact that it really doesn't do much except grow...meaning no other features like attractive or scented flowers, food for wildlife, etc.

So...it's early in our process but I am looking for options. I do love hollies for a variety of reasons. I am thinking of going with some lower growing holies to use as an evergreen hedge hoping they are thick enough to screen the street. To replace the American hollies, maybe Italian cypress/pencil pine...hoping for roots that will go straight down and not spread into the foundation. I am also hoping for the same from the lower growingholly roots.

If I could work in bananna magnolia and Korean spice viburnum and not worry about root damage...also great. Can anyone comment on these issues? Recommend other plants? Plants with multiple considerations are plusses...

BTW.. 3 story Victorian house, not much landscaping on the front of the houses on either side (which are close) so statement planting would help all of us.
Always looking for interesting plants for pollinators and food! Bonus points for highly, and pleasantly scented plants.

"Si hortum in bibliotheca habes, nihil deerit." [“If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.”] -- Marcus Tullius Cicero in Ad Familiares IX, 4, to Varro. 46 BCE
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Aug 18, 2016 5:32 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: UrbanWild
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
Kentucky - Plant Hardiness Zone 7a
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Birds Vegetable Grower Spiders! Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers
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Thought I'd post a pic to see if it might help. BTW, the grasses on each side of the walk will also be going bye bye.
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Always looking for interesting plants for pollinators and food! Bonus points for highly, and pleasantly scented plants.

"Si hortum in bibliotheca habes, nihil deerit." [“If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.”] -- Marcus Tullius Cicero in Ad Familiares IX, 4, to Varro. 46 BCE
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Aug 18, 2016 7:03 PM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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Another good holly choice to consider would be the Sky Pencil holly. They grow tall and narrow instead of tall and wide.

Japanese Holly (Ilex crenata 'Sky Pencil')

There are also some smaller viburnums that could work also. A good source for getting info and buying some would be Classic Viburnums. You could possibly mix up the plantings with these and the holly for variety.

Here's the website for Classic Viburnums: http://www.classicviburnums.co...

All in all I like your ideas for your yard. Suits the looks of your home nicely. I tip my hat to you. Thumbs up

Are those pots on your porch? If so some colorful annuals would look great in there!!
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Aug 18, 2016 8:18 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: UrbanWild
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
Kentucky - Plant Hardiness Zone 7a
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Birds Vegetable Grower Spiders! Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers
Hummingbirder Frogs and Toads Dog Lover Critters Allowed Butterflies Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
pepper23 said:Another good holly choice to consider would be the Sky Pencil holly. They grow tall and narrow instead of tall and wide.

Japanese Holly (Ilex crenata 'Sky Pencil')


Fantastic! Do you know if it runs tap roots or spreads them out? I need to cut the hollies I have due to the root spread.

pepper23 said:There are also some smaller viburnums that could work also. A good source for getting info and buying some would be Classic Viburnums. You could possibly mix up the plantings with these and the holly for variety.

Here's the website for Classic Viburnums: http://www.classicviburnums.co...

All in all I like your ideas for your yard. Suits the looks of your home nicely. I tip my hat to you. Thumbs up


Thanks! Will look at the Viburnums as well.

pepper23 said:Are those pots on your porch? If so some colorful annuals would look great in there!!


Yes...pots. They currently have portulaca in them. We were rushed and I needed something to take the harsh hot sun there.
Always looking for interesting plants for pollinators and food! Bonus points for highly, and pleasantly scented plants.

"Si hortum in bibliotheca habes, nihil deerit." [“If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.”] -- Marcus Tullius Cicero in Ad Familiares IX, 4, to Varro. 46 BCE
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Aug 19, 2016 3:17 AM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
Bookworm Cat Lover Dog Lover Region: Missouri Native Plants and Wildflowers Roses
Region: United States of America Zinnias Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Foundation issues shouldn't be an issue since it's a plant meant to be grown near the foundation also.

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