Plant ID forum: Weird little bush

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Name: Michelle
Pleasant Lake MI (Zone 6a)
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Mizshelli
Aug 15, 2016 1:52 PM CST
Can anyone tell me what the heck this is??? It's growing by my back door, got natural grass clipping mulch and everything. No flowers yet, but there are 3 more like it planted by my deck. I thought it was a weed but it's pretty and it looks like it's some kind of bush.





Is treise an dúchas ná an oiliúint.
(Nature is stronger than nurture)
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Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Aug 15, 2016 2:24 PM CST
Compare with robinia...
Black Locust (Robinia pseudoacacia)

I'm planting all the small locust starts that I can, because the wood is rot resistant, but the voles eat the trees as fast as I set them out.
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Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Aug 15, 2016 2:27 PM CST
I agree Robinia pseudoacacia
Name: Michelle
Pleasant Lake MI (Zone 6a)
Region: Michigan Canning and food preservation Keeper of Poultry Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Mizshelli
Aug 15, 2016 6:54 PM CST
So should I relocate this and the other 3 smaller ones? It looks like it gets HUGE! It's right next to the back door and within 5 feet of the foundation for the house....
Is treise an dúchas ná an oiliúint.
(Nature is stronger than nurture)
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Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Aug 15, 2016 7:04 PM CST
Yes, it's a big tree and you don't want them that close to the house. Lovely when they flower though but considered a weed tree in some areas.
Name: Alyssa Blue
Ohio (Zone 5b)
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AlyssaBlue
Aug 15, 2016 9:28 PM CST
Oh boy, we have the full size trees and they are very tall.

When you pull them out of the ground make sure to get the roots too or they will grow back. The roots will be thicker and spread so that shoots come up a foot or two away. Black locust grows runners underground once established and can be very difficult if let go.
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Aug 15, 2016 11:52 PM CST
Black locust is a hard plant to call either good or bad, it really depends on where it's at and your intentions with it. They are great companion plants for walnut trees as they provide nitrogen to the walnut trees and are not affected by juglone. Juglone is a chemical which occurs naturally in all parts of the walnut tree especially in the buds, nut hulls, and roots of black walnut trees. This chemical kills many other plants that are sensitive to it and unfortunately there is no cure once plants are affected. When planting black locust as an under story tree many walnut growers have found they get higher yields of nuts without any supplemental nitrogen needed.
As stone said black locust post last virtually forever and make great poles for grape trellises, fencing, and many other things but at the same time if you don't have a large field or area to grow them in beware the warnings Alyssa Blue said. They are hard to get rid of once established and do sucker if roots become exposed or are damaged. Also the roots will enter your septic lines and will damage your homes foundation if growing in close proximity. I wouldn't recommend growing it unless you have the room for it. if you live on just an acre or less forget about it. In the long run you'll regret keeping it no matter how pretty the flowers are or what benefits it gives you from producing nitrogen.
When you do remove it or transplant it be sure to wash your hands afterwords. the leaves and bark are toxic to not only us but to animals as well. If you have horses or livestock make sure not to relocate it near them or they could die from cardiac arrhythmia . Thumbs up
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