Plant ID forum: Mystery bee plant

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PaulBunyan
Aug 19, 2016 5:37 PM CST
Hello there,

This is my first post, and what better way than to start with a photo of a plant I can't identify. All I know is that it's a bee magnet. I want more. I'm stationed in Southern Maryland by the way, if that helps ID it. Any idea what this plant is? Thanks so much in advance! I tip my hat to you.

-Paul Bunyan
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Name: Greene
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greene
Aug 19, 2016 6:01 PM CST
Euonymus japonicus? (I think.)
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Silversurfer
Aug 21, 2016 2:43 AM CST
Definitely Euonymus.

PaulBunyan
Aug 22, 2016 7:10 AM CST
Silversurfer said:Definitely Euonymus.

I agree
So, I did some digging after I heard you both say Euonymus. It's not Japanese euonymus, like Greene said before, but I agree it's definitely a euonymus of some sort. After searching different types, I'm certain it's Spreading Euonymus (Euonymus kiautschovicus). Is that pronounced "you-on-imus" by the way?

Thank you so much for helping me narrow it down! Now I know what to plant if I want to help bees find a safe place for some food. Acorn
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plantladylin
Aug 22, 2016 7:20 AM CST
Hi PaulBunyan, Welcome!
Lovely plant! Euonymus kiautschovicus is a synonym for Winter Creeper (Euonymus fortunei)
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Name: Greene
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greene
Aug 22, 2016 9:02 AM CST
Thumbs up Your photo would make a good addition to our NGA database; please consider adding it. Thank You!
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Silversurfer
Aug 22, 2016 10:53 AM CST
I am not sure why you ruled out Euonymus japonicus?

There are many sp of Euonymus and it is not always easy to say from a single pic which one it is.
I am not saying it is E. japonicus...but it is a possibility...which is why I played safe by saying Euonymus sp.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Euonymus_japonicus4....


Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 23, 2016 8:07 PM CST
Pronunciation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d65-ynguft4
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Name: Scott
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ScottD
Aug 30, 2016 9:29 PM CST
Hi all,

Not sure if anyone still following this thread, and I am new to all this had some input but also some questions from more experienced. Saw the picture posted and knew the plant believe Paul is correct about Spreading Euonymus (Euonymus kiautschovicus) 'Manhattan'. Have 2 'Manhattan' Euonymus in my yard that are about 18 yrs old.

The question part was saw comment about Euonymus kiautschovicus is a synonym for Winter Creeper (Euonymus fortunei), and understand if type Euonymus kiautschovicus into search box of NGA database that is what is says, but believe that is incorrect. When click on Winter Creeper (Euonymus fortunei) it list 3 synonyms changing the second part of the Latin name have never seen that where just change the second part of name, and did some research and the only synonym I could find was radicans for Euonymus fortunei. When even just typing Euonymus kiautschovicus into google the main thing that comes up is 'Manhattan' there are a couple of other cultivars have not heard of before, but that is one mainly tied to Latin name.

Would have no problem adding pictures of my plants and adding plant info to database, but guess didn't know if should be somehow fixing other plant. Also didn't know if anyone else had input on what saying or if they want to do their own research and let me know if think my info incorrect. Like I said just joined a couple of days ago, and new to all this would appreciate some guidance.






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Silversurfer
Aug 31, 2016 1:52 AM CST
If in doubt I try to seek out reliable botanical sources.

http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dendrology/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?...

https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/all/euonymus-kiautschovic...

http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/PlantFinder/PlantFind...

This is from the excellent Missouri site above...

Quote....."Euonymus kiautschovicus, sometimes commonly called spreading euonymus, is native to Japan. It is a broadleaf evergreen to semi-evergreen shrub that typically matures in a rounded form to 8-10' tall. Greenish-white flowers bloom in 2-4" wide cymes in summer (July-August). Flowers are attractive to bees. Pink fruit capsules with red seeds mature in November.
Euonymus kiautschovicus was formerly known as Euonymus patens.
'Manhattan' is a cultivar that was discovered in Manhattan, Kansas. It has glossy, broad-elliptic, deep green leaves (to 2 1/2" long). It typically grows in an upright rounded form to 4-6' (less frequently to 8') tall."......... End quote.

However, with only one pic and no indicator of the size of the leaves, size/growth habit/colour of the seed capsules etc etc ..I still say it is difficult to be 100% sure which Euonymus sp it is.
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flaflwrgrl
Aug 31, 2016 10:40 AM CST
@ScottD
Scott, welcome to NGA! Welcome! Welcome! Welcome!

If you ever want to submit changes to the database just go to the plant, click on the left side for the appropriate change you are proposing, make the changes & click submit. It will either be approved or not by the plants administrators. No harm, no foul if it isn't approved. If it is approved then great! Plant nomenclature is constantly changing and things are being reclassified all the time so if you see something that is out of date then please do submit it for change.
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