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Name: Benny Hill
Castle Rock, CO (Zone 5a)
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bennysplace
Aug 20, 2016 10:14 AM CST
Hello all,

This has been a challenging gardening season with hail, heat, rabbits and more. Thankfully (and I rarely say this) the season is almost over.

One thing that is troubling me right now is the state of my Joe Pye Weed. I bought a beautiful specimen, full and lush and now it looks like this. I don't know what is causing it. I thought this plant would be a perfect low maintenance specimen. Sad

Just to give history, when I planted this, I guess I did not water it in well enough so it drooped (twice) and now I water it consistently (striking a balance so not to over water). Would this have happened when it was stressed due to not enough water? I know that was the cause of the drooping because after I gave it a good soak, it perked back up. This leaf browning, etc. is concerning. I thank you all so much in advance for any advice you can give. Please pardon the quality of the image. I took it with my phone. If you all want a decent photo, I will use my normal camera.

Most sincerely and blessings to you all,
Benny
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Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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KentPfeiffer
Aug 20, 2016 12:08 PM CST

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I'm assuming your particular plant is a variety of Spotted Joe Pye Weed (Eutrochium maculatum) ? Looks like it, anyway. If so, it's a wetland plant that has limited tolerance for dry conditions. The browning on the leaves is a result of plant getting close to its wilting point. It appears to have recovered, though, and should be fine next year.
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Aug 20, 2016 1:06 PM CST
Personally, i would guess that you planted this eutrochium in the full sun.
I find they do best in a bit of shade, like at the forest edge.
At my house in the sand hills.... I have a couple specimens fixing to bloom, and didn't get a drop of water through the drought this year.... of course, these are established plantings.... but it isn't the wilting that caused the leaf burn.
Name: Benny Hill
Castle Rock, CO (Zone 5a)
Making something out of a little bi
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bennysplace
Aug 21, 2016 8:24 AM CST
Hi there Kent and stone,

I thank you very kindly for your help with this. I am going to be moving this today (hopefully if it gets cloudy) to an area where it will get indirect sun. At the moment, it gets full sun but only in the mornings.

All the best to you both and everyone here.

Take care,
Benny
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Aug 22, 2016 6:35 AM CST
I agree with Kent, this plant grows naturally in moist places and it is known to suffer from leach scorch if it gets too hot or dry. It grows wild in full sun around here but in moist soils.
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Aug 22, 2016 6:41 AM CST
bennysplace said:Hi there Kent and stone,

I thank you very kindly for your help with this. I am going to be moving this today (hopefully if it gets cloudy) to an area where it will get indirect sun. At the moment, it gets full sun but only in the mornings.

All the best to you both and everyone here.

Take care,
Benny

I'd wait on moving a flowering plant...
Also... Morning sun should be just right... Morning shade and afternoon sun would be the worst...

Full sun means a full day of the sun beating down on the plant...
Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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KentPfeiffer
Aug 22, 2016 8:21 AM CST

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I have Spotted Joe Pye Weed (Eutrochium maculatum) growing in a couple of places in my yard, one with full sun all day long and another with morning shade and afternoon sun. They perform perfectly fine in both places as long as they have adequate moisture.

There are other species of Joe Pye Weed more commonly found in the eastern US, such as Sweet Joe Pye Weed (Eutrochium purpureum) and Joe-Pye weed (Eutrochium fistulosum) that are more oriented towards savanna/woodland habitats. They tend to struggle a bit in full sun. But, Spotted Joe Pye Weed (Eutrochium maculatum) will take as much sun as you care to give it. It suffers under dry conditions, though, sun or shade.

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