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Aug 22, 2016 5:37 PM CST
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Name: UrbanWild
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A few days ago I hung 2 feeders on shepherds crook poles. A hummer has found it. Great. However...tiny ants found it as well. I have heard about some preventative measures. I was in Lowes today. The only option they had was this sort of popup hanger with repellant. I don't want to use something like that. What anti-ant measures are y'all using?
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Aug 22, 2016 7:09 PM CST
Name: Carol
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I've tried everything else. Those are the only thing that works for me.
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Aug 23, 2016 11:02 AM CST
Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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Some people use moats very successfully. I still haven't tried but let me go find a great link for making your own moat...

Every now and then I've dusted the area where the ants walk with Diatomaceous earth but that's not always an option.

Be right back.

*Edit to spell moat correctly.
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Aug 23, 2016 11:07 AM CST
Name: Christine
North East Texas (Zone 7b)
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Here's the link for DIY ant moat - http://garden.org/ideas/view/X...
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Aug 23, 2016 4:11 PM CST
Name: María Cecilia Merlo
La Plata, ARGENTINA
I used to have the same problem. I solved it by adding a bottle cap on the hanging wire, and filling it with water.
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Aug 23, 2016 7:03 PM CST
Name: Carol
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I have tried "moats" but (a) they have to be kept filled...a very intensive project, because the water evaporates, and (B) because the ants can actually walk across the drowned bodies of their predecessors. I can only allow so many hours a day to the feeders.
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Aug 23, 2016 7:35 PM CST
Name: Kurt
Woodbridge , Va (Zone 7a)
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I use store bought ant moats

evaporation is not that bad but I do dump the water and wipe them out with a paper towel pretty much
every other time I refill the feeder to keep them clean and remove any algae or slime.
It gives the hummingbirds a place to drink water too , all the more reason to keep it clean.

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if the evil spirit arms the tiger with claws , brahman provided wings for the dove.
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Aug 24, 2016 7:11 AM CST
Name: Christine
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Nice moats. And it inspires more ideas of things to use if going DIY. Thumbs up
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Aug 24, 2016 1:40 PM CST
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Name: UrbanWild
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
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Well...sometimes I just need to get out of my own way. I gathered materials to make a moat...then I noticed the top of the feeder looks like it also functions as a moat. So...I filled it and it immediately confused the column of ants. It has been about 6 hours and still holding. Who knew?

BTW, I think the feeders are Perky-Pet Pinch Waist Glass feeders.
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Aug 24, 2016 2:31 PM CST
Name: Christine
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That's great, Urban! Thumbs up None of my feeders have that feature. Need to look into the Perky-Pet feeders.

Neat! I just looked and that one has a built in ant moat!! http://www.birdfeeders.com/per...
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Aug 24, 2016 9:34 PM CST
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Name: UrbanWild
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
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Actually discovered at Lowes tonight that mine were whatever brand Lowes stocks. The bee guards are white. Otherwise...very similar.
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Aug 24, 2016 9:37 PM CST
Name: Kurt
Woodbridge , Va (Zone 7a)
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that is funny , mom went out shopping today and came home with a built in ant trap feeder from Ace hardware for about 12 bucks.
moat is a little smaller then my add on ones , but we are giving it a go , swapped it out right before dark.


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A pint can't hold a quart , If it is holding a pint it is doing the best that it can.
and it is written ,
if the evil spirit arms the tiger with claws , brahman provided wings for the dove.
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Sep 1, 2016 7:19 PM CST
Name: Connie White
Athens tn.
Im no quitter.. I will garden in TN
I wonder if you put some vasaline on your string and up to the hook if that would help... Ants surely wouldnt want there feet sticky. Find out where there trails are and throw cornmeal down they eat it and die .
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Sep 1, 2016 8:41 PM CST
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Name: UrbanWild
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
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I may try a thin coating if vaseline near the ground as insurance.

UPDATE on ant moats...

The ants were foiled by the moats. Early on, they were so numerous and used to swarming the feeder that they tried to use shear numbers and swimming to overcome the obstacle. A few actually drowned. Then, the numbers dropped precipitously. Now, you rarely see ants. You do gave to keep filling the moats but that's OK by me. I fill slowly to the point where the water is actually above the rim but held by surface tension. It is hot here so it will evaporate in 8-10 hours. Not bad really. Well designed feeder.

BTW, I picked up 2 HummZinger Ultra feeders (made in the USA) after seeing people rave about them. They also have built-in ant moats. I have yet to try them as I have two feeders out and only seem to have one hummingbird thus far...and it seems to visit sporadically.
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Sep 2, 2016 7:52 AM CST
Name: Christine
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Urban, thank you for the update. Thumbs up Thumbs up

Tnwild, vaseline on the hook is a good idea.
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