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Aug 27, 2016 11:06 AM CST
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suburb of Springfield, MA (Zone 6a)
I am a newbie with daylilies. Can someone tell me, please, how the height of a scape is measured? Is it from the ground to the top of the tallest bloom, or from the base of the plant to the first bud, or...?
I prefer shorter daylily varieties, but have been surprised more than once with much taller blooms than I wanted. For example, "Chorus Line" was advertised as about 19". My blooms exceeded 30" tall. "Fooled Me" was advertised to be 24". It fooled me with scapes/blooms topping 30".
Thanks.
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Aug 27, 2016 11:21 AM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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I always thought the measurement was taken from the ground to the base of the top bloom , the height of the scape. But no matter how you measure it, there is a lot of variation from garden to garden and I've even read there is a lot of variation by region.
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Aug 27, 2016 3:11 PM CST
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suburb of Springfield, MA (Zone 6a)
Thank you, Larry.
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Aug 28, 2016 6:46 AM CST
Name: Ed Burton
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Aug 28, 2016 8:54 AM CST
Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)
My question is similar. I have had a few blooms this year that are much lower than the foilage. These are first year blooms, so I don't know if that is normal. I want blooms higher than foilage. Is there a way to search for height of foilage versus height of blooms?
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Aug 28, 2016 9:19 AM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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@Barbalee,
I think actually you are asking about foliage height compared to scape height. I don't know of any way to search for foliage height. Registered scape height is easy to find, in the databases and in most descriptions given for the plant. The problem is that the registered scape height varies a lot from garden to garden, so my recommendation is that when you are shopping for a plant, to post here and ask if the plant has a tendency to bloom low in the foliage. Also some years daylilies just seem to have taller or shorter scapes than other years, so some of the plants you have with the blooms down in the foliage this year may not be that way next year. I am not sure the cause of this behavior is predictable.
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Aug 28, 2016 2:23 PM CST
Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)
Thanks, Larry! At this poing, I guess I'll just have to wait until next year and see what I've got in my 200!! Thank You!
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Aug 28, 2016 5:46 PM CST
Name: Mike
Hazel Crest, IL (Zone 5b)
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@Barbalee do these plants have registered names ?
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Aug 28, 2016 6:02 PM CST
Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)
They all do, Mike (@Hazelcrestmikeb), and I know scape height on registration (and a few other things, of course), but so far I've had a couple with blooms very low in the foilage. These are all first year cultivars, though!
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Aug 28, 2016 6:18 PM CST
Name: Julie C
Roanoke, VA (Zone 7a)
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First year cultivars almost never bloom at their correct height. It can take from 2-3 years for them to settle in!
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Aug 29, 2016 6:33 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Julie is right. I wouldn't go by first year bloom.
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Aug 29, 2016 9:14 AM CST
Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)
Thanks, you guys! I was kind of worried about low blooms totally overshadowed by foilage, but I'll put the worry to bed! Thank You!
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Sep 3, 2016 1:22 PM CST
Name: Mayo
The Netherlands, Europe (Zone 9a)
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my 2015 seedlings that are blooming are actually quite tall...
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Sep 3, 2016 1:38 PM CST
Name: Maurice
Grey Highlands, Ontario (Zone 5a)
For any specific cultivar scape height depends on fan size and that will depend roughly on fan age; I agree with Floota and Hemlady.
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