Plant ID forum: Cirsium carolinianum?

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Name: Michele Roth
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chelle
Oct 16, 2011 6:53 AM CST
I think this may be Cirsium carolinianum. I can add it to the database under the "catch-all" category, but I'd prefer to narrow it down if possible.

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Name: Ric
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Henryr10
Oct 16, 2011 8:34 AM CST
Cirsium carolinianum is rare in Indiana. Threatened here in Ohio.

Here's a Field Guide.
http://fieldbioinohio.blogspot.com/2010/09/thistles-do-not-t...
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Henryr10
Oct 16, 2011 8:37 AM CST
How tall is it?
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Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b
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chelle
Oct 16, 2011 9:21 AM CST
I didn't grab it and stretch it upwards (it was leaning a bit), but I'd approximate it at about 34". The two most notable traits that strike me the most are the flat and closely held raised ridges that on other thistles are open and held away from the lower section of the blossom, and the very thin brownish spikes in the same area. I haven't noticed these two traits together on any other variety so far. I probably need to get a few more pictures, including the reverse of the leaf and the basal leaves.
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Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b
I'm always on my way out the door..
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Forum moderator Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Dog Lover Cottage Gardener
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chelle
Oct 18, 2011 3:48 AM CST
I went back to the plant and there are no basal leaves; at least there isn't any longer (the lower leaves are dried up and clasping the main stalk) , and the height is just about right.
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