Roses forum: September 2016 -- Photos and Chat

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Name: Zuzu
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Sep 1, 2016 1:16 AM CST

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Here it is: the month when we'll haunt the Palatine website, waiting for the new roses to be added. Orders will begin to be accepted at 9:00am EST on Monday, September 12th.

The thumbnail photo is September Morn.

Name: Sharlene
St. Gallen - Switzerland (Zone 6a)
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sunnyvalley
Sep 1, 2016 9:49 PM CST
September - Wow!! Hope we have a good fall!
It won't be Palatine for me but another website closer to home Big Grin but only have space for maybe 5 roses Sad
Name: Zuzu
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Sep 2, 2016 1:18 AM CST

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Today is VJ Day, marking the end of World War II in 1945. In Europe the holiday is celebrated in August, on the date of Japan's surrender, but here in the United States it is celebrated on September 2nd, the date the official Japanese Instrument of Surrender was signed on the USS Missouri in Tokyo Bay.

World War II Memorial Rose is the Rose of the Day.

Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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pepper23
Sep 2, 2016 5:47 AM CST
That one is a stunner!!!
Name: Mary B Tanas
Burgundy, France (Zone 8b)
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mbotanas
Sep 2, 2016 7:05 AM CST
@Sharlene - do you have a favorite site for roses? (we're neighbors)
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Sep 2, 2016 9:44 AM CST

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Mary, @mbitanas, you have to tag her member name, fortunately we don't have a Sharlene (clicked the name) otherwise they would have wondered why they were tagged. nodding
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Sep 2, 2016 12:13 PM CST

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They're ba-ack!

The Palatine website is being updated. It's still a work in progress right now because some of the "sold out" signs are still up, but new roses have been added and many older roses have been brought back.

https://palatineroses.com/roses
Name: Sharlene
St. Gallen - Switzerland (Zone 6a)
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sunnyvalley
Sep 2, 2016 12:30 PM CST
Big Grin Big Grin if there was another, she would really wonder nodding

@mbotanas - I don't really have a favourite but I can recommend the German 'RosenPark Dräger' and MyRoses.de - both good selection and good quality. Seems MyRoses.de is still busy updating their bare root roses because the HT's aren't in yet and you still cannot put in orders.

Last year I ordered from Tuincentrum Lottum in Holland for the first time and I must say, not only great prices but great quality as well. A couple of us are putting in a collective order to save a bit on the shipping costs.

I haven't tried any of the French vendors yet - maybe next year if I dig up a bit more lawn Big Grin
Name: Mary B Tanas
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mbotanas
Sep 2, 2016 2:09 PM CST
Oh so sorry Whistling D'Oh!
If I were to recommend any that I know, it would be Francia Thauvin who specialises in vintage roses, and always adds a gift if you order a few. I would never have discovered Mme Pierre Oger if it weren't for her. We've met her daughter there and she has her mom''s passion, for sure.
Or the Pépinières de la Saulaie - for bare root roses, same price as many, but bigger and stronger.
Thanks for the new sources I will check out for sure!
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Sep 2, 2016 2:52 PM CST
Zuzu the ultimate enabler! I am very tempted by so many !
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Name: Zuzu
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Sep 2, 2016 2:59 PM CST

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It looks like they might have finished updating. The "sold out" signs are gone. I've been hoping they'd offer Quick Silver, First Crush, Earth Angel, and a few other Kordes roses I have my eye on, but they aren't on the Palatine list so far.

I'm tempted to get Handel because mine bit the dust, and maybe Le Petit Prince because I'm not crazy about the one I got from Ludwig's. It still hasn't grown much, and a Palatine rose would have been huge by now.
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Sep 2, 2016 3:02 PM CST

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And I messed up my tag when I typed it on my phone! *Blush*
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Name: Amanda
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pepper23
Sep 2, 2016 3:59 PM CST
Posted this on the August thread instead of here so I'm coming over here too!! Hilarious! Hilarious!

Maggie, which I got from A Reverence for Roses is blooming now. So pretty and smells sooo good!!



Name: Sharlene
St. Gallen - Switzerland (Zone 6a)
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sunnyvalley
Sep 2, 2016 10:29 PM CST
@mbotanas Mary - thanks, I had a look at both sites. My French is not that great so it was a little difficult Smiling are the prices I see for bare root roses?
You tagged some of your photos with the location so I visited Chuelles, France on Google - lovely little village.
If you want to know where I live Google 'Sonnental, St. Gallen'

If the rest of you don't mind sharing your locations, I would love to see where you live Smiling

Zuzu - I would jump at Quick Silver if it was on offer here - just love the pictures I have seen but it seems that Kordes has only released it in the States Sad

Amanda - Maggie is gorgeous (in August and September Smiling ) and seeing is makes me wonder if I should extend my collection to include something other that modern HT's and floribundas?????

Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Sep 3, 2016 1:05 AM CST

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My town is in my profile, Zuzu is a couple of miles from me.

I Google visited 'Sonnental, St. Gallen', pretty little town, so green! I have cousins in Switzerland that I visited in 2009, not sure where though, and more family in Germany.
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Name: Mary B Tanas
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mbotanas
Sep 3, 2016 8:17 AM CST
Switzerland is so picture-perfect and beautiful! I've been there many times for my work that takes me to Schaan now and again. Such a lovely place to be growing roses.
And yes, the prices listed are for bare root plants. I have several from both, having given up on roses bought from non-specialists for 3 times the price...I'm very happy with all and haven't lost a one Crossing Fingers!
With six newbies last fall, I've promised to hold off this year, so I'm not even peeking or I know I'll be too tempted. Then again, that wouldn't be polite of me....to not check out the German ones, now would it? Big Grin Green Grin! nodding
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I have a wonderful memory of 'Le Petit Prince' that I discovered in the Roseraie de Provins when visiting... so one of these days I'll need that one, for sure.
Name: Sharlene
St. Gallen - Switzerland (Zone 6a)
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sunnyvalley
Sep 3, 2016 12:23 PM CST
Just finished a 'visit' to Sebastopol! It is so big!!! And the streets are so wide!!! After twenty years of living in a small Swiss town, you become accustom to things on a smaller scale Smiling Enjoyed seeing where you live Suzanne!

Mary, I'm always peeking - making lists, adding and deleting. I went a bit overboard last year and learnt my lesson! Ordering is easy - the hard part comes afterwards when you have to dig all the holes!!! D'Oh! Won't be doing that again!!


PS - La Rose du Petit Prince is a must!!!!
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Name: Amanda
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pepper23
Sep 3, 2016 6:04 PM CST
@sunnyvalley, you can never have too many roses!! Rolling on the floor laughing I like both modern and old roses but am leaning more towards the old ones for now because I think they will handle my soil better. I have clay and live on a hill so it's hard to amend the soil and have it stay where you want it.
Name: Sharlene
St. Gallen - Switzerland (Zone 6a)
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sunnyvalley
Sep 3, 2016 10:11 PM CST
Amanda, my DH would tend to disagree Hilarious! He likes lawn - I do too but I like roses and iris (daylilies?) more Rolling on the floor laughing

We have a slope like that in our garden which is quite difficult to get to. Whistling
Name: Mary B Tanas
Burgundy, France (Zone 8b)
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mbotanas
Sep 4, 2016 2:00 AM CST
Yesterday was "open doors" at one of my favorite nurseries, so it was all about getting grasses and perennials to accompany the new roses from last year ('Burgundy Ice' with 'Canicule') and a new bed of irises (from the original 2 'Provencal' that needed dividing).
It's been 8 years now of digging, planting and creating the beds, so I've been trying to slow down and just enjoy, but it's so tempting to keep on going. My DH is my landscaping consultant, who rides around on the mower and has both a keen eye and good taste. Lovey dubby He just asks that I stick to a budget, but so far, he's been easily convinced and looooves the roses and iris, too

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