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Name: Susan
Southeast NE (Zone 5b)
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stilldew
Oct 16, 2011 1:40 PM CST
Can't remember ever having a lily bloom in Oct before, but I have a couple flowers open now on Extravaganza. I got it from eBay and planted it late. The rabbits ate some of the buds but at least 3 have opened. I'm wondering if there is any chance of them living through the winter and blooming next year? I would think the bulb might not have time to form a new flower for the coming season since it is so late.
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Moby
Oct 16, 2011 10:45 PM CST
There's not much you can do about it unless you want to dig it up and keep indoors until the stem dies back naturally.
I think it would be fine for next year even if you didn't. What a nice surprise!

(last week I found a stem with 3 blooms on Go Big Red)
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Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
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gwhizz
Oct 17, 2011 1:57 AM CST
Heres my 1st seedling lilium from the "Hudsons AH-mix[seed].{I PURCHASED 5 GRAMS]. it bloomed on oCT 10 .Any ideas on a name?--I will show a lot more, as time goes on Blinking Confused
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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ge1836
Oct 17, 2011 3:27 AM CST
Susan: I have not planted lilies really late in the season but here in New York State I have planted them as early as april and May of the year they bloomed. They do bloom later in the season.
My thinking is your lily might take a year off but as Moby said it would be alright to leave it.
Its a 50-50 chance it would have problems if potted for the winter.
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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PollyK
Oct 21, 2011 6:59 PM CST
I agree with Moby and Jo. I've had this happen quite a few times, and normally they took the next year off, but the second year bloomed really well.
Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
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gwhizz
Oct 21, 2011 7:04 PM CST
Question-I purchased 40 Longiflorum bulbs--Huge healthy bulbs...Not 1 has shot a stem..but on a couple, a little ball has breached the surface-{any ideas] Confused
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Name: Øystein Hermansen
Østfold,Norway (Zone 5b)
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grapus
Oct 22, 2011 12:14 AM CST
Have you tryed to dig down to the bulbs and see how they are doing?
Ille bra,se.
Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
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gwhizz
Oct 22, 2011 3:56 AM CST
yes-they were doing nothing-that i could see Hilarious! --roots had bedded in nicely, but nothing has happened
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Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Oct 22, 2011 9:31 AM CST
So there are no basal leaves either.

Have they received a cold treatment?
Name: Øystein Hermansen
Østfold,Norway (Zone 5b)
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grapus
Oct 22, 2011 10:02 AM CST
Trumpet lilies don't need a cold treatment, but that was my thought too.
Ille bra,se.
Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
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gwhizz
Oct 22, 2011 7:04 PM CST
You might be on to it!!!! Thumbs up
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Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Oct 22, 2011 11:09 PM CST
Our American Easter lilies are L. longiflorum and all greenhouse growers give them a cold treatment before they force them. Several breeders are on their way to producing everblooming lilies (with L. longiflorum in their background), and there is no dormant period needed for them. This is different. I grew Easter lilies as a greenhouse crop decades ago, and that is the only L. longiflorum I am familiar with, since the species is not very winter hardy here.

Øystein, are you saying that all trumpet lilies don't need a cold treatment? I'd like to read up on that, if you have a source of information at the ready. Confused
Name: Øystein Hermansen
Østfold,Norway (Zone 5b)
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grapus
Oct 23, 2011 1:19 AM CST
No,i just have heared it. But last year i grew some L. rosthornii crosses from seeds. when the winter come they where not plced in my fridge since they where so small. And through the winter i had them growing. Then i placed them in my greenhouse in the spring where they continued to grow, and to my big surprise had flowers just a few weeks ago. My wife and i where in Latvia this summer, visiting some lilygrowers. One of them told me that trumpets don't need a colment treatment for flowering. (I could have had a picture here of it but it was looking just like L.rosthornii). Since i'm living in a cold country i don't have any experience about growing trumpets without a cold period, and i don't have any experience growing L.longiflorum. Crying
Ille bra,se.
Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
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gwhizz
Oct 23, 2011 2:09 AM CST
These bulbs are from a warmer part of australia,.,.as i said,it has been a very warm winter'here' in the coldest part of Australia... who knows 'what amount ' of cold they received in 'mainland Australia'.''if any''.. i took them on ''appearence quality'',.,.Thanks-- i will go and debate my refund, with the 'knowledgable ones',.,.
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Name: Michael Norberry
Arcata, CA Zone 9 or 17 suns (Zone 9a)
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mnorberry
Oct 23, 2011 2:04 PM CST
Here are two Asiatic that I purchased from the open house at Sun Valley Flower on 7-24-11. (Price was 3/$1.00 Asiatic, 2/$1.00 Orientals) I haven't check to make sure the names are correct. Sun Valley I found has named some of their own creations.

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Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Oct 23, 2011 6:23 PM CST
Øystein, that's an interesting story with the L. rosthornii. (!nd congratulations on your success!) It may have been an anomaly because of the juvenile state of the plant. I don't know. I am going to have to read up on this...

Anthony, I don't know that the seller did anything wrong that might give you cause for reimbursement. Am I jumping to conclusions here? Did he say they didn't need a treatment of any kind to spur growth? What makes you think the fault is his?
Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
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gwhizz
Oct 23, 2011 8:52 PM CST
Well.,you dont sell liliums to people that dont grow!- I only purchased 40[from a commercial outlet],. If they sold 4000[for instance] bulbs, that dont grow,they are going to have a slight problem on their hands,.,.Nobody is going to sit a pot full of soil in their dining room on christmas day and say,''there is my christmas lily' Hilarious!
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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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pardalinum
Oct 23, 2011 9:01 PM CST

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Are you sure the seller actually GREW the lilies and not purchased them from the Northern Hemisphere where they will have recently finished a bloom cycle?

I have had lilies take a rest and not come up. Bonbini did it the year before last. Basically, it decided to skip a year. Think I will rename it Bomb Bini since it bombed out for a year.

But a batch of 40... if they looked to be in good condition I think they would be good. I understand (in the Northern Hemisphere) that the longiflorums, which are forced to bloom around Easter, often perfom a second bloom later towards fall.
Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
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gwhizz
Oct 23, 2011 9:58 PM CST
Hmmmmmmm!! Confused -I suppose all i can do is visit the store and have a chat !!- i have purchased[late] back up bulbs[said to be 1/2 size larger again]- and maybe tuck the others away[somewhere in my spaceless yard]--i also purchased some super huge 'Marrero' bulbs-Gerberas-Show Dahlias{Oh help me!!!!!! Blinking Blinking Blinking -Wheres it going to stop],,Where am i going to put them? Shrug!
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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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pardalinum
Oct 23, 2011 10:06 PM CST

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Of course, have a nice polite chat with them Big Grin .

As for where to put your pots, thats easy. Stack them up pyramid style. Big Grin

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