Irises forum: your opinions .... (please :) )

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Name: Timothy
eastern oregon (Zone 7b)
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TBMan
Sep 2, 2016 3:12 PM CST
...... besides the sawdust fiasco Hilarious! -- just wanted some feedback on the packaging, paperwork, and tagging of my stock that some of you bought. I use this info as food for thought to improve my product and customer service. I may not be able to implement all suggestions, but every suggestion is weighed and given due consideration.
I appreciate your time -- and hope your irising season was "all the rainbow" Group hug
Timothy - Beaumont Ridge Iris

side note: - orders are still going out, but I'm taking a 24 hr break on Saturday to attend a funeral. Back at it on Sunday :)
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
irises
Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Enjoys or suffers cold winters Region: United Kingdom Region: Northeast US Irises
Region: United States of America
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irisarian
Sep 2, 2016 3:34 PM CST
Have you every tried shredded paper? Winterberry doesn't shred theirs., but wraps the rhizomes loosely. Superstition & Mid America use the excelsior which is a pain to unpack but does protect the plants. It is also expensive.

Region: California
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UndertheSun
Sep 2, 2016 4:31 PM CST
My opinion is....I'll be ordering from you next year. Green Grin!
Name: Timothy
eastern oregon (Zone 7b)
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TBMan
Sep 2, 2016 4:33 PM CST
...... yes, i've tried it shredded paper -- and am not satisfied with the results. It looks cheap and unprofessional. And it doesn't sufficiently cushion the rhizomes against careless or rough handling in my experience. Yes, excelsior is very expensive, but the sawdust, whilst inexpensive & messy, does pack around the rhizomes and into the spaces to provide extra protection against rough handling, especially over long distances, which my plants usually travel. It also absorbs extra moisture and can dry the rhizomes out a bit while their in transit, especially valuable since i ship my plants "nearly" fresh dug.
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Region: California
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UndertheSun
Sep 2, 2016 4:44 PM CST
I open everything on a table in the barn, so it doesn't worry me what they are packed in. For those who open their boxes inside of their house, maybe a little warning on the invoice (or on the box) might be helpful. "Your irises will shipped in sawdust, so please open with care".
Name: Greg Hodgkinson
Hanover PA (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Irises I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pennsylvania Region: Japan Garden Photography
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Misawa77
Sep 2, 2016 6:24 PM CST
My opinion? Well,.....I was in the group that missed the boat. Then, after hearing reports from other members went back to look again and think harder about making an order; but it was too late.😫

So here is my opinions:

Your boxes are too heavy.
Your rhizomes are stupid big.
You "pad" your boxes with whatever(did you actually cut down a tree and covert it into ""sawdust"" for this effort?) is lying about.
You pester folks (in the name of "customer service"
In general, you are a pain in the ass. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

Too bad I missed all of this attention. I should know better. Maybe next year.
Name: Greg Hodgkinson
Hanover PA (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Irises I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pennsylvania Region: Japan Garden Photography
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Misawa77
Sep 2, 2016 6:28 PM CST
I was trying to be good this year, but I should have ignored that sentiment and made an order. BUMMER D'Oh!
Name: Pam
Pennsylvania
Irises Keeps Horses Cat Lover Dog Lover Region: Pennsylvania
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Snork
Sep 2, 2016 7:20 PM CST
I will happily critique my order.......when it gets here!

Region: California Cat Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers Dog Lover
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iciris
Sep 2, 2016 8:47 PM CST
Snork said:I will happily critique my order.......when it gets here!

Me too.

Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
Region: North Carolina Hostas Enjoys or suffers hot summers Dog Lover Garden Procrastinator Daylilies
Plant and/or Seed Trader Irises Container Gardener Region: United States of America Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Cuzz4short
Sep 3, 2016 4:31 AM CST
I went to well over 10 vends this season. I got bored at work one day and did a personal grading scale list based on several factors(around 10). Rating several things on a 1 to 10 scale. Then there was a shipping factor at the that subtracted from the totals or added to them. This list shall remain personal and hidden.

Timothy, I had not one negative issue with what was received. Your were not part of my grading scale, but easily if so you'd be in the top 4. I always say "if ya can't fix it, it ain't broke." Everything was great and exceeded my standard expectation. I'm sure your rhizomes aren't always that perfect and maybe they are, but mine were great. No issues or complaints Thumbs up
Gimme it and I'll grow it!
Name: John
Kansas City,MO (Zone 6a)
Region: Missouri Composter Enjoys or suffers cold winters Plays in the sandbox
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yadah_tyger
Sep 3, 2016 4:42 AM CST
Gabriel - OK, so who ranked first. I did seven vendors and, hands down, Suttons was my top.

Blessings
When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' Theodore Roosevelt
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
Region: North Carolina Hostas Enjoys or suffers hot summers Dog Lover Garden Procrastinator Daylilies
Plant and/or Seed Trader Irises Container Gardener Region: United States of America Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Cuzz4short
Sep 3, 2016 5:23 AM CST
I'll never say Whistling
Gimme it and I'll grow it!
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Region: North Carolina Irises Cat Lover Garden Photography Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Lestv
Sep 3, 2016 5:51 AM CST
Okay, I confess that I was Gabe's top vendor, but only because the rhizome was huge with 7 or more increases and was delivered in person already potted in a three gallon pot (yes the rhizome was that big). Hilarious!
My road calls me, lures me west, east, south & north; most roads lead men homewards, my road leads me forth. - John Masefield
Name: John
Kansas City,MO (Zone 6a)
Region: Missouri Composter Enjoys or suffers cold winters Plays in the sandbox
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yadah_tyger
Sep 3, 2016 5:52 AM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing I tip my hat to you.
When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' Theodore Roosevelt
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Region: North Carolina Irises Cat Lover Garden Photography Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Lestv
Sep 3, 2016 6:08 AM CST
Now all kidding aside, Tim your box was perfect. The rhizomes were large and healthy. The fans had not browned. I liked the tags with the photos of the iris on them.

As for the sawdust - as I said to you before, it really protected the iris and kept the box from getting crushed. I have had many boxes sent with shredded paper or little to no packing that have arrived semi flattened. I thought too that it was a really good medium for keeping the rhizomes dry.

I would suggest you note on your site that you ship them in sawdust so people know to expect it. Sawdust easily spreads everywhere. Maybe highlight the note so people read it (and make a joke about those eager to jump in to their boxes should keep a vacuum handy 😉).
My road calls me, lures me west, east, south & north; most roads lead men homewards, my road leads me forth. - John Masefield
Name: Jane H.
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
Irises Birds Region: United States of America Region: Kentucky Clematis
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janielouy
Sep 3, 2016 6:49 AM CST
Your rhizomes are in wonderful shape when they arrive. I think a little warning about the sawdust would be in order as I am one of those nuts that opens them when they come in the door. The picture with the name on the rhizomes are beautiful but if they are labor intensive, it would not be a problem to leave them off. Unless they were laminated, I am not sure they would weather well but it is too early to tell.
My rhizomes from you have done spectacular as far as developing new roots and new leaves. I am a very happy camper and will try to order again next year.
As I always tell you, your website was awesome and I would love to be able to peruse it through the winter if you get it up and running but I know you are super busy right now.
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Irises Vegetable Grower Butterflies Region: Wisconsin Keeps Horses Cat Lover
Dog Lover Keeper of Poultry Daylilies Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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tveguy3
Sep 3, 2016 7:29 AM CST
Speaking of the website, when I tried to go to it, I got one from 2015, and it didn't have much on it. What's with that? Do you have a new link? I used the one in the vendor's list above. I was looking to replace 2, Mastery, and Finishing School. Smiling
I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion. - Alexander the Great
Name: Ivor
Middletown, DE (Zone 7a)
Irises Cat Lover Garden Photography Region: Delaware
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Islandview
Sep 3, 2016 1:59 PM CST
The one time I received an iris order that came wrapped in newspaper had moldy and rotted rhizomes. While old newspapers are economical and more green friendly, they seem more prone to accumulating too much moisture at spots in direct contact with the rhizomes. That hasn't happened too often with excelsior. Sawdust sounds intriguing as you say absorbs extra moisture, but does it get heavy when filling up a box? Is it a by-product of lumbering and thus "green" also?
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
irises
Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Enjoys or suffers cold winters Region: United Kingdom Region: Northeast US Irises
Region: United States of America
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irisarian
Sep 3, 2016 8:26 PM CST
We have used large shredded newspaper, not the small short chopped stuff.
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Irises Vegetable Grower Butterflies Region: Wisconsin Keeps Horses Cat Lover
Dog Lover Keeper of Poultry Daylilies Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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tveguy3
Sep 4, 2016 4:15 AM CST
I would think that if a rhizome rotted in transit, that it was too wet when packed. Ghio uses shredded newspapers and I have never had a problem with rot from him. Shrug!
I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion. - Alexander the Great

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