There is a new red floribunda listed that Palatine is calling 'Bordeaux Citiscape'. After some searching, I found it here:
http://www.worldrose.org/trial...
It looks like a really good replacement for Knock Out roses.
I do not recall seeing this one in Germany at the Kordes nursery. Many of my photos are all now on Google...took 16 GB to upload all from my phone. I'll try to figure out how to sort them and make it all public, because I took photos of every rose they had. I still have some on the tablet to upload, but I need to find free wifi to do that.
It cost me $90 to upload those because I went over my 18GB limit. Sprint would not let me increase my plan. Those of you who have fast cheap internet, consider yourselves lucky.