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Sep 15, 2016 6:32 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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Australis said:Unfortunately I've seen the issue intermittently reoccur even after clearing my cache.


I'll keep an eye out.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 17, 2016 7:35 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
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Still lagging, but a bit better.
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Sep 17, 2016 8:54 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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I haven't had any problems since I did what I did.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 20, 2016 11:57 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
And I spoke too soon. I go to a thread, read it, go back to home page & it says there's a new post on the thread I just left. I go to it & there's no new post.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 20, 2016 1:16 PM CST
Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level
Are you using the home button (the little house) or the back button (left arrow)? That can make a difference. If I use the back button, I just ignore the 'new post' messages I've already reviewed. Or, could be some little bug that is not affecting everyone. Mine is displaying correctly.
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
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Sep 20, 2016 1:20 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
I'm using the home button Deb.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 20, 2016 1:23 PM CST
Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
Region: Pacific Northwest Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level
I figured you probably were, just thought a 'quick fix' might be worth exploring. And perhaps others might learn the difference between the two - it took me a while to catch on to it...
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
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Sep 20, 2016 2:21 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
Plant Identifier Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Same here @flaflwrgrl but it doesn't seem to happen as often as it had.

Using home button here.
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Sep 20, 2016 2:23 PM CST
Name: Tara
NE. FL. (Zone 9a)
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pirl said:Same here @flaflwrgrl but it doesn't seem to happen as often as it had.

Same for me too...
Also on Safari... I'll try the cache... thanks Ann Thumbs up

edited...Me too...Home click...
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Sep 20, 2016 2:25 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
Bonehead said:I figured you probably were, just thought a 'quick fix' might be worth exploring. And perhaps others might learn the difference between the two - it took me a while to catch on to it...


Good thought Deb. Thumbs up
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 20, 2016 4:20 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
Bookworm Charter ATP Member Region: California Hummingbirder Orchids Plant Identifier
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
I'll have to try that. I've tried everything else.
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Sep 20, 2016 4:33 PM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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I've been following this thread, and just for the record, I have NOT seen this problem. Win 7 and Firefox.
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Sep 20, 2016 6:44 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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Ann, in the last few days I've also seen that.

I read the thread, then hit the middle option here:
« Back to the top
« Garden.org homepage < - - -
« All Things Gardening forum

Sometimes it still says "New" on the Home Page. I check, and, no. Mine was the last post, and I never saw "there have been new posts since you ...".

Windows 7 and Firefox 30.0 - I need to update FF.

It's not annoying, just unusual to see Dave's code do something unexpected.

I assume the coming rollout of new code will make this discussion moot in a few days or weeks.
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Sep 20, 2016 7:32 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
So far, this time, it doesn't happen after I make a post but if I just read the thread without posting or read & give a thumbs up and then go to the homepage.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 20, 2016 7:50 PM CST
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Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
Sunset Zone 15
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Yes, I still get it off and on. Dave has been busy this past week but I know he originally said because it is inconsistent, it's harder to pinpoint the issue.
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Sep 20, 2016 7:57 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
Bookworm Charter ATP Member Region: California Hummingbirder Orchids Plant Identifier
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OK! I just got a different problem with it. I had replied to a thread in Plant ID, moved through the rest, and when I went back to it, my reply didn't show up. I thought I might have forgotten to hit send, but there was another ahead of me, and it didn't show either. Took a break and now both are there.???
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Sep 21, 2016 11:26 AM CST
central Illinois
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I don't know if this problem has been noted elsewhere, but sometimes when I post a pic what comes up is the BB code it needs but it has a lot, and I do mean a lot of computer code after it. This is noted in the preview stage. I highlight all of said code after the first line and discard it which gets rid of all the excess code. The results are just the first necessary line and pic when 'finish' clicked.
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
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Sep 21, 2016 11:31 AM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
I don't know if this site runs with multiple "threads" or "processes", but if it does, such things tend to only show their vulnerable spots when heavily stressed with volume or simultaneous exceptions. If two different processes try to use or modify the same data at the same time, the potential for "funny behavior" increases, and entirely different kinds of software are needed to mediate the potential conflicts.

Maybe (MAYBE) an increase in forum activity plus the extra load of the NGA sections of the site has caused things that used to work flawlessly or almost so, now glitch often enough that heavy users notice it. This is a pure guess.

Maybe (MAYBE) this is one of the reasons for Dave re-working the code behind the site. Dave and Trish and Jon have never said that; I'm just speculating. Integrating NGA, totally re-designing the site, and making it very customize-able would be more than sufficient reasons all by themselves!
The thread "Changes are coming!" in Site Talk forum

P.S. The rollout was originally planned for this month, and it would be just like Dave to MEET such an ambitious deadline, unlike so many "big, professional software companies".

But since I'm guessing and speculating wildly, I'll make one more guess. If Dave has to choose between "fast" and "even better", he'll go with making ATP / NGA / Garden.org EVEN BETTER. Even if it takes a few more days, or even weeks. Even if testing the changes is slow, and polishing the chrome takes time.

"Good" software is really hard to write.
"Great" software is even harder, takes longer, and few people can create it at all.
"Bullet-proof" multi-threaded software is somewhere between "much harder" and "almost-impossible".
It's hard to write and slow to design and implement.
Big software projects are MUCH harder than small or medium-sized projects, and take MUCH longer for normal designers.

Since the site is going to be "great", "bullet-proof" AND bigger, meeting the original deadline would be astonishing even for a big, highly-paid team working 12 hours per day. I hope Dave isn't losing sleep!
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Sep 21, 2016 9:36 PM CST
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Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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jmorth said:I don't know if this problem has been noted elsewhere, but sometimes when I post a pic what comes up is the BB code it needs but it has a lot, and I do mean a lot of computer code after it. This is noted in the preview stage. I highlight all of said code after the first line and discard it which gets rid of all the excess code. The results are just the first necessary line and pic when 'finish' clicked.


I haven't seen anything like that! (thankfully)
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Sep 21, 2016 10:23 PM CST
central Illinois
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It's pretty weird.
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.

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