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Sep 9, 2016 8:54 AM CST
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Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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Just wondering how many use this. If you do, could you give me some advice please. Should it be put on in the Spring or now? Or both? I was told it can help rebloomers to put up stalks in the Fall. Thanks, Teresa
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Sep 9, 2016 9:09 AM CST
Name: Greg Hodgkinson
Hanover PA (Zone 6b)
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i don't use it. Thought this was more meant for Daffy's and such.
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Sep 9, 2016 9:10 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
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I use it on my irises and bulbs.

I give my irises a tablespoon each mixed into the soil when I plant them out and then I give them a light sprinkle in spring, when they put up new fans and again after they are done blooming.

I'm sure there are other ways to do it - especially if you are in a different zone, but this works very well for me. Mind you, my season is short and I have only ever had 're-bloom' on newly planted irises, which have been a little confused.
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Sep 9, 2016 9:23 AM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
I was told years ago by a lady who used to hybridize irises (may she rest in peace), to add a handful of bone meal in the hole and mix it in when you plant them. She had small hands, so I used to just grab "some". How's that for a level of measurement. Hilarious! Don't use it on a windy day, you don't want to inhale the bone meal dust.
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Sep 9, 2016 10:29 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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Birds Hummingbirder Hybridizer Irises Lilies Peonies
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Thanks for the input. Nope, I sure don't want to breath it! Angry
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Sep 9, 2016 11:59 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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I have put it into the hole when planting, but you should know that it doesn't become available for the plant to use until it breaks down, and that can be along time. Smiling
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Sep 9, 2016 5:53 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
SONGBIRD GARDENS
Birds Hummingbirder Hybridizer Irises Lilies Peonies
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Well, thanks Tom. It would do nothing to help makes stalks this late in the year would it. I had purchased a bag but I may just wait. Which would be best apply now or in the Spring?
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Sep 9, 2016 5:59 PM CST
Name: Jane H.
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
Birds Region: Kentucky Clematis Daylilies Irises Region: United States of America
I have used it but dogs love it and will dig up the plants if they smell the bone meal. That just happened to me about a month ago. That dog has since died (not from the bone meal) so I do not have to worry. The owner was not very responsible so he was always in my yard. I use it at the bottom of the hole when planting fall bulbs and when I am planting irises if I remember.
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Sep 9, 2016 6:09 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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Birds Hummingbirder Hybridizer Irises Lilies Peonies
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Our old Lab is not with us anymore but he was a digger sometimes. My neighbor has a beagle, if I do apply it, may be I should just try a small area first.
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Sep 9, 2016 7:00 PM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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I always put it in the hole when I planted them, I never side dressed with it. I think the best time to fertilize the re-bloomers is right after they are done blooming, it's a bit late now, and excessive late new growth can be very tender over winter. I think a regular balanced fertilizer like 10 10 10 would be best, but Arlyn is the re-bloomer in the group. Hilarious! better ask him.
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Sep 9, 2016 7:52 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I put it in the hole when planting. Then work some in around each iris in the fall, and especially again about a month before bloom season. This was what I was taught way back.

My rebloomers wait until crazy late so I guess they enjoy the extra food coming their way?
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Sep 10, 2016 2:08 PM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I've used it at planting time, for irises, but, generally I use it most on bulbs (tulips, daffies, etc., and on the 'bulb type" irises). For some good, general information on the care and feeding of re bloomers, here's the Winterberry page on culture:
http://winterberryirises.com/i...
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Sep 10, 2016 2:31 PM CST
Name: Timothy
eastern oregon (Zone 7b)
Bulbs Region: United States of America Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers hot summers Salvias Region: Pacific Northwest
Peonies Region: Oregon Irises Hybridizer Herbs Dahlias
bonemeal is a fine organic fertilizer and additions of it won't hurt, but its a "incomplete" fertilizer. In my experience if you need phosphorus in the soil, get your soil tested, and then use a complete formulation -- ie 5 -10-10, or 6-8-12, or even a 10-20-20
and incorporate it into the soil/iris bed prior to planting. Phosphorus moves very VERY slowly in the soil because of its binding ability with soil ions and cations, and in cased of very high ph or low, it doesn't move at all.
Also iris use NPK (nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium) ratio's differently depending on time of year. For example, in the spring the ratio is 1-1-1 meaning the iris clump is sucking up all three nutrients at an even rate. Immediately or soon after bloom the balance starts to shift to a 1-2-2 ratio, ie the iris is using more phosphorus and potassium and less nitrogen. During late summer and fall, the balance completely shifts to a 0-2-2 or similar ratio as the iris matures its rhizomes and hardens its cell walls in preparation for freezing temps.
I use a 16-16-16 with nitrogen evenly split between a fast release and a slow release. Also most important of all, is that bearded iris seem to be heavy users of trace elements -- ie zinc, manganese, molybdenum, etc. If you can incorporate a fertilizer brand with these minor elements, you'd be amazed at the performance increase.

disclaimer:
The above is observations from my personal 43 years of growing bearded iris and is offered as "food" - lol -- for thought ONLY. Your individual soil, climate and environment can differ greatly. A good source of info is a local iris society, and the members experiences. Please pardon the length of my post Smiling
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Sep 10, 2016 3:47 PM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Daylilies Cat Lover Region: Wisconsin Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Thanks, that's some good information! Smiling
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Sep 11, 2016 9:56 AM CST
Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly"
South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b)
"The mountains are calling..."
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Thank you, Timothy!
Evaluating an iris seedling, hopefully for rebloom
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Sep 11, 2016 10:38 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
It is amazingly hard to get 5-10-10 and 10-10-10 in this area. Not sure why but the variety of fertilizers to be had is limited.
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Sep 11, 2016 10:50 AM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
A lot of areas have restrictions on the phosphates in fertilizers.
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Sep 11, 2016 11:47 AM CST
Name: Elsa
Las Cruces, New Mexico (Zone 8a)
Dog Lover Irises Region: New Mexico Region: Southwest Gardening Region: United States of America
I find 6-10-10 at Walmart labeled as All Purpose fertilizer .
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Sep 11, 2016 11:51 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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I can only find 13 13 13 here, but I just use less.
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Sep 12, 2016 1:49 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
SONGBIRD GARDENS
Birds Hummingbirder Hybridizer Irises Lilies Peonies
Sempervivums Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: United States of America Vegetable Grower Hostas Heucheras
I would like to thank everyone for their input. Timothy, it is good to see you posting. 43 yrs! Wow that is a lifetime of growing experience! I would love to see some of your pictures.
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