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Name: Michele Roth
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chelle
Oct 18, 2011 6:03 AM CST
Anyone have personal experience with Yellow Frau Dagmar Hastrup (Topaz Jewel) ?
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Name: Toni
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Skiekitty
Oct 18, 2011 8:32 AM CST
just upon reading HMF, how can they classify that as a miniature? 2-5' tall, 7' wide.. that's a pretty big miniature!
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Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b
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chelle
Oct 18, 2011 9:24 AM CST
Mmm, yeah. I didn't read HMF yet. I took this to be a regular sized plant. I'd better go look again....I'm not so interested if it's a miniature. The poor thing would get swallowed up in the chaosof my garden! Heck, I just about "lost" Burgundy Iceberg in the masses of annuals....and it's not so small.
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Name: Michele Roth
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chelle
Oct 18, 2011 9:57 AM CST
Here's another -

This particular rose probably won't stand for zone 5 conditions....but, maybe you know of a rose that has the same color and bloom form that would be hardy here?
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Name: tabby
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tabby
Oct 18, 2011 10:16 AM CST
Topaz Jewel is a sprawly shrub, a hybrid rugosa. I can't find where it says it's a miniature. No matter, it definitely isn't a miniature, although it gets wider than it gets tall.
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Name: Toni
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Skiekitty
Oct 18, 2011 10:42 AM CST
Ignore zones. Just plant it super deep & make sure that you put a lot of mulch/peat moss around the base. Should be just fine. Over half of my roses are zone 6-7. I don't pay attention to zones & roses. If I'm that worried about a rose, I put even more mulch around it. :)
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Name: Toni
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Skiekitty
Oct 18, 2011 10:44 AM CST
tabby said:Topaz Jewel is a sprawly shrub, a hybrid rugosa. I can't find where it says it's a miniature. No matter, it definitely isn't a miniature, although it gets wider than it gets tall.


I probably got that from where it was introduced by Moore's Miniatures. I'd figure that a miniature company would be producing miniatures.
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Name: tabby
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tabby
Oct 18, 2011 10:50 AM CST
Ralph Moore bred a lot of very cool roses. Another hybrid rugosa he bred was Linda Cambell, which was named for a Denver rosarian. It's a true red.

Wow, I'd forgotten I was a member at HMF. My plant list is at least a decade out of date. I need to add Linda Campbell.
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Name: Michele Roth
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chelle
Oct 18, 2011 11:04 AM CST
Tabby!

Your newest additions to the database are what got me shopping.....again! Hilarious! You should see my "un-culled" list so far.... Rolling on the floor laughing I'm gonna need a backhoe to dig planting holes if I don't watch out! Whistling

....I'm on page 9, of 29 in one section.....at one place, and I've already made tentative lists at a few others! Hilarious!

[I need to change the subject line of this thread, from "a bit", to "over-the-top-lost-all-control"! Rolling on the floor laughing ]

Why is it that I can maintain decorous shopping habits with all of my other plants, but go crazy when it comes to roses? *Blush*

Toni,

I found a few like that white one above that go down to zone 4. Hurray!
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Name: tabby
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tabby
Oct 18, 2011 11:31 AM CST
Uh oh, I'm getting somebody besides myself in trouble! I have a lot more pictures to upload sometime.

I started buying roses almost 40 years ago but didn't really go nuts until the 1980s, when I bought an acre yard primarily to grow roses. I planted a lot of roses, many from rooted cuttings (which is why so many of mine are way out of patent ). I also got a lot of miniatures because I just adore the look of a tiny rose. But, I got old and got sick and now regret having so many roses. I still love them, but I have to have a huge amount of help from the spouse doing the pruning now. The spouse now requests that I buy plants without prickles. If I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have planted so many.
Name: Toni
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Skiekitty
Oct 18, 2011 11:34 AM CST
wow. Now I don't feel so bad about my yard looking 1/10th as gorgeous as yours Tabby.. mine's a baby compared to yours! LOL. I've been doing this now for 2 years (got my first rose, Mardi Gras, in '08, and really actually got serious in '09). And if I had to depend on my spouse to help w/the yard, I wouldn't have a yard!
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Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b
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chelle
Oct 18, 2011 12:11 PM CST
tabby said:Uh oh, I'm getting somebody besides myself in trouble!
I agree but, I tip my hat to you. . Lovey dubby
tabby said:
If I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have planted so many.

Whoops! I already placed the order... Whistling knew I'd better act fast before somebody talked some sense into me! Hilarious!

Pruning? I need to prune? Oh, is that why Acropolis looks like it wants to be a tree? Just kidding.....but I do need to start pruning some of these next Spring, for real. (Most of mine are just beginning to get comfy here.)

I'd like to see your entire place....bet it's awesome!

Toni,

Do you have, or have you tried Midnight Blue? A shorty, but interesting.

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Name: Toni
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Skiekitty
Oct 18, 2011 1:47 PM CST
Chelle - I did have Midnight Blue. I planted it in a stupid spot & it croaked. I'll get it again in 2012 if I can find it.
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glevely
Oct 18, 2011 2:06 PM CST
Toni I love Midnight Blue I'v never seen that one be for
Name: tabby
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tabby
Oct 18, 2011 2:22 PM CST
If you like rich purplish colors, have you considered Old Port? It doesn't get very big and dies back about the same as a hybrid tea, but it has survived for about 15 years for me on own roots and blooms well with very pretty, very rich colored, very smelly blooms.

For purple, I still haven't seen anything beat the once bloomer Cardinal de Richelieu.
Name: Toni
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Skiekitty
Oct 18, 2011 3:45 PM CST
Old Port looks very much so like Intrigue, which I have like 3 of (I try not to get too many of the same rose.. that way I can have more variety). Plus I don't think I've ever seen it locally (I'd get it because it's yet another purple rose).
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Name: tabby
denver, colorado zone 5
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tabby
Oct 18, 2011 3:55 PM CST
Old Port is a lot fuller and much more old fashioned in form, but youre right about not finding it locally. Or possibly anywhere. I didn't realize until now how hard it is to find.

I think I'll take some cuttings next year for insurance.
Name: Steve
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Steve812
Oct 21, 2011 6:42 AM CST
I grew the hybrid rugosa Agnes in zone 6b where it did very well. The shade of yellow is much paler, but it can be an interesting rose to grow because it does have typical rugosa foliage, the flowers have a distinctive pleasant fragrance, and it is almost always the first rose to bloom in the spring, lengthening the rose season. I don't think it repeats. And I wouldn't call it especially generous with its flowers, but it can charm when in bloom and it is an easy care rose.

For a richer yellow it's hard to beat Autumn Sunset, IMO. It does build up quickly into a large shrub.

Another Ralph Moore introduction is Rise 'n' Shine It's also a mini. It's said to grow to about 4 ft in each direction. In fall the colors of the flowers are quite saturated. Bloom in warm weather can be almost milky pale. But in all cases the small flowers are formally shaped and decorative. It's densely branched and looks handsome in the garden even when not in bloom. Here in zone 7 it's almost evergreen.

Finally, I grew Midas Touch in zone 6b and while I don't usually recommend HT roses - especially for zone 5 weather, MT is a tough rose with saturated, non-fading yellow flowers. It looks good planted with other flowers and does well there. I planted it with blue salvia jurisicii which bloomed at the same time and covered up the bottom 1/3 of the leggy plant, and with iris. And they all looked great together.
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b
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chelle
Oct 21, 2011 7:20 AM CST
Midas Touch does look particularly healthy! I might have to add this rose to my list.
Thanks, Steve. Smiling
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porkpal
Oct 21, 2011 7:32 AM CST
Chelle how do you do that ? How did you enter the name Midas Touch so that it would lead to the database?
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