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Oct 1, 2016 6:54 AM CST
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The only red Cyms I ever grew were Cym Mimi 'Mary Bea' and Ivy Fung, which are somewhat in your direction. Yours are gorgeous!!
I wish I knew more.
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Oct 1, 2016 12:38 PM CST
Name: Elaine
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I have a dark red one called "Kenny's Wine" that did not bloom last year, but I'll search back and see if I can find a picture of it for comparison.

The other one that comes to mind in that color is Jim's "Leodogran Cradlemont". @hawkarica ?
Thumb of 2016-10-01/dyzzypyxxy/2b3d24 Cym. Kenny's Wine
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Oct 1, 2016 3:43 PM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
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Here is my Cym. Leodogran 'Cradlemont'. It mat be a parent but I don't think it is a match.
Thumb of 2016-10-01/hawkarica/71560b

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Oct 2, 2016 7:07 PM CST
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Thanks all for the suggestions and comparison photos. MrCym has said that it is Ceres, probably the selection/cultivar 'Girrawheen'. I don't suppose anyone would have a photo for comparison to try to confirm the cultivar? He also mentions in another thread (http://www.newhorizonorchids.c...) that Ceres 'F.J.Hanbury' is not a true Ceres, so the photos I can find online for that one can't be used.
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Oct 14, 2016 5:58 AM CST
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Hi all,

Hoping to have a few more photos of my families' cymbidiums soon, but in the meantime here is a NOID that I purchased today:

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I found it quite difficult to capture the subtleties in the colour with this one.

The previous owner said she was given it in 1984 and had divided it multiple times since.
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Oct 14, 2016 6:45 AM CST
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Another beauty! I love this one too! Lovey dubby
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Oct 14, 2016 8:10 AM CST
Name: Elaine
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It's just lovely. I think of Cyms as great 'bonus' orchids because I have so much trouble getting them to bloom here. If they do bloom for me, they have such generous blooms, and last a long time. Each flower is big and gorgeous.
Elaine

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Oct 14, 2016 10:12 AM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
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This is the time of year when I slide my cyms into increased sun to get them to bloom.

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Oct 14, 2016 11:16 AM CST
Name: lindsey
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I moved mine a few weeks ago...when do you see spikes on yours , Jim?
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Oct 14, 2016 11:50 AM CST
Name: Elaine
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Ack, here I was about to do the opposite and put mine in the shade on the north side of the house so they'll get as much cooling weather as possible. Then once they've chilled a bit, move 'em out. But, do they start this early to set flower spikes? I wonder also if your garden is chillier than mine in winter anyway, Jim. You do have the north wind exposure and breezes off the lake there, right?

Guess I'll try chilling a couple, and also try the "more sun" strategy with a couple. Actually a few of mine are in the sun now, just because the angle is lower, and they were shaded by the bamboo all summer. Hmmm.
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Oct 14, 2016 3:52 PM CST
Name: tarev
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My mini-cyms before would start doing their flower spike in Fall when temps start to cool down overnight.
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Oct 14, 2016 6:47 PM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
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My Cyms bloom from February through March. I think it is more about sun than chill hours.

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Oct 15, 2016 4:19 AM CST
Name: lindsey
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Thanks Jim!
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Oct 17, 2016 5:21 AM CST
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So the last one of my mother-in-law's is opening and I hope to have photos soon; there's also a few more of my grandmother's that are almost open that I should be able to get photos of on the weekend.

Apart from the pale pink above, I obtained four other NOIDs this weekend.

The first is this purple one (really struggled to capture the colour - my phone's camera just didn't want to cooperate this weekend):
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Next was a yellow (at least 20 years old, according to the previous owner), which is stronger than the photos show:
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The last two came from the same owner, who had way too many and was selling them off quite cheaply. One was a pale pinkish-apricot one (the pot I selected had finished blooming but was larger than the ones in bloom and could be divided):
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The last one is one I am concerned about. It is a dark pink and has two bloom spikes. The first was the most visible and I assumed was nearly finished; the second was hidden in foliage, so unfortunately I did not see the extent of colour breaking until I had a good look later.

Would anyone with more experience be able to tell me if this is symptomatic of a virus, or just fungal spots, sunburn and environmental damage (we have had some odd weather over the past couple of weeks)? Only the second flower spike shows colour breaking, not the first, so I'm just not sure. I've got it isolated as best I can for the moment.

The first (and cascading) flower spike:
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The second (and upright) flower spike, showing colour breaking:
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Finally, some foliage photos:
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Thoughts, suggestions, possible identities, etc. appreciated. Thanks.
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Oct 17, 2016 6:42 AM CST
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They are all gorgeous!
Since only one of two spikes shows the color break I would probably do the same, isolate it and wait for the next bloom cycle.
I have seen these streaks on the leaves and always assumed it was cultural, especially after spending time outside.
Hopefully it is not a virus!
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Oct 17, 2016 9:29 AM CST
Name: Carol
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They're all lovely. I especially like that purple one.
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Oct 17, 2016 1:10 PM CST
Name: lindsey
wesley chapel, fl
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All stunning Joshua...I wish we could grow them here in my climate*** Sighing!
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Oct 17, 2016 3:04 PM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
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I think we can, Lindsey. I have 6 or 7 of them.

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Oct 17, 2016 3:25 PM CST
Name: lindsey
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Well...I killed 6 or 7 of them in NC... and am trying again with 2.. a stiff leaved variety that I understand is more heat tolerant and the other that has day lily-like leaves..fingers crossed!
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Oct 17, 2016 7:50 PM CST
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I found it!!!
I remember reading years ago a list of Cymbidium species listed by heat tolerance!

This is a copy from a post at the Orchidboard:

Species
Heat Factor
1Cym ensifolium subsp haematodes 10.0
2 Cym canalicaulatum 10.0
3 Cym aloifolium 10.0
4 Cym finlaysonianum 9.5
5 Cym ensifolium subsp ensifolium 8.5
6 Cym munronianum 8.0
7 Cym dayanum 8.5
8 Cym madidum 8.0
9 Cym bicolor 8.5
10 Cym atropurpureum 8.5
11 Cym chloranthum 7.0
12 Cym sinense 5.5

In other words the species ensifolium or a hybrid with ensifolium might have a good chance of doing well in a warmer climate. And so on......
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