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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Sep 13, 2016 6:01 PM CST
Background history:

'Frankly Scarlet' is a evergreen tetraploid introduced in 1997 by Calhoun.

This plant can be found in the NGA Plant Database at:
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Frankly Scarlet') .

Please join in, if you own this plant! We would love to know more! I award an acorn for performance information posted to this thread.



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Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Frankly Scarlet')
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Sep 13, 2016 6:51 PM CST
Becky, there are two 'Frankly Scarlet' daylilies. The pics above don't match the registered 'Frankly Scarlet's AHS description so are presumably the unregistered one. See also this discussion:

The thread "'Frankly Scarlet'" in Daylilies forum
Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Sep 13, 2016 10:44 PM CST
Sue - Thank you for that information. Thumbs up

Does anyone own the "real" Frankly Scarlet? If so, would love to see photos and an evaluation of this cultivar.
Thank you!
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Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Sep 14, 2016 5:48 AM CST
It will be interesting to see if anyone has the 'Frankly Scarlet' that matches the AHS/NGA registration description. The problem we have now with the NGA database is that the info is split between the two, i.e. we have the AHS description for the registered one but the added info like the rust rating and photos most likely refer to the unregistered one.
Name: Jessie Worsham
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Jessie6162
Sep 14, 2016 6:20 AM CST
Sooby is right, this one is the "imposter", same name, but not registered. This 'Frankly Scarlet' does well in my garden, 2-3 way branching, 10-15 buds, and rebloomed twice on nice, tall, strong scapes. It's a gorgeous shade of deep red and has a velvety look that I love. As for the original 'Frankly Scarlet', the description does not match what I have. Per the AHS website, it is "Red with a cream edge and yellow eyezone above a yellow to green throat." I would love to see if anyone has the true FS. The beauty and success of the imposter I fear may have completely replaced the original true registered plant. I hope people will realize that this is why it's so important to register all daylilies with AHS (daylilies.org).
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alilyfan
Sep 14, 2016 6:31 AM CST
I wasn't aware of this dual name, & of course, I have the fake one. It grows well & I like the color, but prefer larger flowers & this one will probably be leaving my garden. I think every photo I've ever seen of Frankly Scarlet has been just like mine. I hope someone has the real thing, I'm curious now.
Name: Avedon
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Avedon
Sep 14, 2016 8:20 AM CST
I have the imposter and I love it; it stays, for it is better than some of the registered ones that I have now removed.
Name: Natalie
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Natalie
Sep 14, 2016 11:15 AM CST
I have the fake one as well. I love it, but I sure would like to know what the true name is. I suspect that this is a name that was put on it by a company that was selling it to a big box store, and the name stuck because so many people bought it. I got mine from a nursery that bought all of their daylily plants from the local daylily club.
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Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
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admmad
Sep 14, 2016 11:27 AM CST
The information I found in the AHS email robin archives is that 'Frankly Scarlet' the imposter is really 'Woodside Warrior'.
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Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
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admmad
Sep 14, 2016 11:32 AM CST
There are two photos in the daylily database for 'Woodside Warrior'




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Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Sep 14, 2016 11:34 AM CST
I had 'Frankly Scarlet' on my wish list at one time, but removed it because of the registration issue. So I guess now I can put 'Woodside Warrior' on my list. I had forgotten about that till it came up on the plant of the day and reminded me why I removed it, Thanks for the imposter name!
Name: Sue
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sooby
Sep 14, 2016 11:34 AM CST
There's quite a difference in scape height, the All American (unregistered) imposter Frankly Scarlet is 18" to 30" scape height, 'Woodside Warrior' is registered at 44":

http://www.allamericandaylilies.com/frankly-scarlet/

http://www.daylilies.org/DaylilyDB/detail.php?id=11836&name=...

Edited to add this link for Frankly Scarlet, scape height more realistically 28-30":
http://www.americandaylily.com/product/frankly-scarlet-ppaf/

Edited again to add if you look at the above URL it ends with PPAF implying a patent was applied for, but under what name I so far haven't discovered

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Name: Maurice
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admmad
Sep 14, 2016 11:48 AM CST
Woodside Warrior at Olallie Daylily Garden http://www.daylilygarden.com/flowers/woodside-warrior.html
is listed as 34" with a 4" flower.

'Frankly Scarlet' the imposter is listed as a 4" flower at http://www.allamericandaylilies.com/frankly-scarlet/
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Name: Natalie
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Natalie
Sep 14, 2016 11:56 AM CST
Thanks Maurice! Mine is very tall, and everything else fits with the description, so I'm sure that is what I've got. It's nice to finally have the correct name for it! Hurray!
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Sep 14, 2016 12:06 PM CST
The throat on 'Woodside Warrior' looks more green to me than the one on Frankly Scarlet the imposter.
Name: Sharon Rose
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Altheabyanothername
Sep 14, 2016 12:16 PM CST
Not to add more confusion but one is a dip and one a tet according to registration. " Woodside" is an Apps name. Cenerton nursery does the Trophy Takers and Appsters. Could there be a different explanation
than imposter?
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Name: Maurice
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admmad
Sep 14, 2016 12:22 PM CST
@Sooby - the throat of 'Woodside Warrior' does not appear to be as green in the photo on Olallie's web page.
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Sep 14, 2016 12:30 PM CST
It's described as yellow-green ('Woodside Warrior') on the registration, the Olallie picture looks to have a hint of green to me.

AHS registration with photo:

http://www.daylilies.org/DaylilyDB/detail.php?id=11836&name=...

Sharon, that's part of the problem, the original and registered 'Frankly Scarlet' is a tet, the imposter is apparently a dip. The sales descriptions for the imposter do not match the AHS registration details for 'Frankly Scarlet' which is a 6" flower "Color: red with a cream edge and yellow eyezone above a yellow to green throat". We call it an imposter because it's details are given as in the original registration, but basically it is another daylily with the same name.
Name: Natalie
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Natalie
Sep 14, 2016 12:35 PM CST
Thanks for the AHS link Sue. Mine looks just like Woodside Warrior.

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Name: Natalie
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Natalie
Sep 14, 2016 12:40 PM CST
Here is a list on Pinterest of some of the All American daylilies. I'm going through the list now to compare the names. Right away I knew that Lady Elizabeth wasn't correct. That name was registered in 1948 as "Yellow dark self"

https://www.pinterest.com/aadaylilies/award-winning-daylily-...
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