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Name: Ricardo Sandifer
Marin Co., CA
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ElJardineroGringo
Sep 18, 2016 6:21 AM CST
found in northern california backyard
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Name: Daisy
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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DaisyI
Sep 18, 2016 9:44 AM CST
It looks like a Guava tree. Do the fruits get larger?
Perthshire. SCOTLAND. UK
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Silversurfer
Sep 18, 2016 10:06 AM CST
I was thinking of Cotoneaster sp.
Don't think Guava are in racemes.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=guava+tree&rlz=1C1GNAM_en-...
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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
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plantladylin
Sep 18, 2016 10:10 AM CST
It does resemble Cotoneaster, for comparison:

http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?enlarge=0000+000...
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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
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plantladylin
Sep 18, 2016 10:12 AM CST
Two more for comparison:
C. lactaeus: http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?enlarge=0000+000...
C. simonsii: http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?enlarge=0000+000...
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Silversurfer
Sep 18, 2016 2:07 PM CST
There are many sp of Cotoneaster.
Quote wiki...."Depending on the species definition used, between 70 and 300 different species of Cotoneaster are described, with many apomictic microspecies treated as species by some authors, but only as varieties by other"

I would not like to try to say which one it might be.
However it is one with long stalks, berries which hang in clumps.
.....such as Cotoneaster frigidus. (I am not saying the one above is C. frigidus!)

http://www.bluebellnursery.com/catalogue/images/839_3.jpg

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Cotoneaster+frigidus&clien...

Thus it rules our C. franchetii./C lactaeus and C. simonsii.

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Name: Daisy
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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DaisyI
Sep 18, 2016 2:55 PM CST
Cotoneaster would make more sense...
Name: Ricardo Sandifer
Marin Co., CA
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ElJardineroGringo
Sep 19, 2016 6:29 AM CST
Any ideas on the final verdict? It is Cotoneaster, but how about the specific type? Francheteii? Frigidus? To me it more closely resembles the francheteii
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Silversurfer
Sep 19, 2016 11:55 AM CST
ElJardineroGringo said:Any ideas on the final verdict? It is Cotoneaster, but how about the specific type? Francheteii? Frigidus? To me it more closely resembles the francheteii


Look at the stalks that have the berries.
As already mentioned above Cotoneaster franchetii have berries on very short stalks. see...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Cotoneas...

There are hundreds of Cotoneaster ...many are hybrids.
It is rather hard to be sure which one it is.

Many are huge shrubs...some make small/medium trees.

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Name: Scott
Dover, NY (Zone 6a)
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ScottD
Sep 19, 2016 7:53 PM CST
Hi all,

Kind of new to the plant id and was looking and I am definitely no expert of Northern CA plants, but guess was wondering cause when I saw picture my first thought was Viburnum which has similar leafs, branching, also grows berries, and is tree like guess wondering why that was ruled out. Not saying it is that but too me it is such a small picture of just the leaves and berries seems hard to rule out unless they don't grow in that area. Wouldn't a larger picture of the whole tree make it easier cause they grow much differently and help to figure out and narrow down variety.
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Silversurfer
Sep 20, 2016 2:10 AM CST
Viburnum has opposite leaves.
So cannot be Viburnum sp.

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