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Name: Patty
Washington State (Zone 8b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Patty
Sep 20, 2016 12:13 AM CST
Anyone recognize this? It has been in a shaded spot, and I haven't seen any flowers yet.
Thumb of 2016-09-20/Patty/e13cb5 Thumb of 2016-09-20/Patty/1f1db9

Patty 🌺
Perthshire. SCOTLAND. UK
Region: United Kingdom Plant Identifier
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Silversurfer
Sep 20, 2016 2:07 AM CST
Helleborus sp or hybrid.
It should flower in the spring.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=helleborus&rlz=1C1GNAM_en-...
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Sep 20, 2016 2:32 AM CST
Patty I love your avatar what type of semp is that?
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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
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plantladylin
Sep 20, 2016 5:46 AM CST
That foliage does look like Helleborus:
Hellebores (Helleborus)
Stinking Hellebore (Helleborus foetidus)
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Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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crawgarden
Sep 20, 2016 7:51 AM CST
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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
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plantladylin
Sep 20, 2016 8:42 AM CST
RJ, that is a beautiful Hellebores (Helleborus) !
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Name: Patty
Washington State (Zone 8b)
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Patty
Sep 20, 2016 9:47 AM CST
Thanks again Silversurfer! I'll see what the flowers are like. The previous owner had big patches of Stinking Helleborus but the leaves were different from these. Daniel, the semp name escapes me right now - maybe after another cup of coffee - Thanks everyone! Been here a year but this half acre garden still has a lot of unknowns for me! Thank You!
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Sep 20, 2016 10:53 AM CST
The leaves on Helleborus foetidus look very similar to the ID plant. How did the previous owners' differ?

Perthshire. SCOTLAND. UK
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Silversurfer
Sep 20, 2016 12:34 PM CST
Helleborus foetidus was my 1st thought.

http://www.aphotoflora.com/images/ranunculaceae/helleborus_f...

http://www.aphotoflora.com/images/ranunculaceae/helleborus_f...
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Name: Patty
Washington State (Zone 8b)
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Patty
Sep 22, 2016 1:43 PM CST
Well, now I'm confused! The labeled Hellebores foetidus has wider leaves that are glossy. These leaves are narrow and matte - it does look like a Hellebore leaf, but maybe a different variety Shrug!

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Patty 🌺
Perthshire. SCOTLAND. UK
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Silversurfer
Sep 22, 2016 2:47 PM CST
Narrow leaf = Helleborus foetidus.

http://www.aphotoflora.com/images/ranunculaceae/helleborus_f...

Wider leaf looks like Helleborus x hybridus.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Helleborus+x+hybridus.&cli...
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Name: Patty
Washington State (Zone 8b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Patty
Sep 22, 2016 11:51 PM CST
Thanks again SS - the previous owner was an expert gardener and I never questioned her incorrect label on the cross. Thank You!
Patty 🌺
Perthshire. SCOTLAND. UK
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Silversurfer
Sep 23, 2016 2:14 AM CST
When they flower you will be able to tell them apart with ease.

Helleborus foetidus tends to seed around especially when it is happy..ie. in the shade.

Helleborus x hybridus can become an obsession...collecting different colours from white, yellow, pink, red, deep plum. Spotted. Single and double flowers.
They look stunning when floated in a glass bowl of water.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=helleborus+x+hybridus+in+a...

There are other Helleborus I love...just for the interesting leaf shape.eg Helleborus multifidus subsp hercegovinus

http://www.louistheplantgeek.com/images/stories/plants/Helle...
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