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Sep 20, 2016 12:13 AM CST
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Name: Patty
Washington State (Zone 8b)
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Anyone recognize this? It has been in a shaded spot, and I haven't seen any flowers yet.
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Sep 20, 2016 2:07 AM CST
Perthshire. SCOTLAND. UK
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Helleborus sp or hybrid.
It should flower in the spring.

https://www.google.co.uk/searc...
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Sep 20, 2016 2:32 AM CST
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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Patty I love your avatar what type of semp is that?
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Sep 20, 2016 5:46 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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That foliage does look like Helleborus:
Hellebores (Helleborus)
Stinking Hellebore (Helleborus foetidus)
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Sep 20, 2016 7:51 AM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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As Yogi Berra said, “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”
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Sep 20, 2016 8:42 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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RJ, that is a beautiful Hellebores (Helleborus) !
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Sep 20, 2016 9:47 AM CST
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Name: Patty
Washington State (Zone 8b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Photo Contest Winner 2021
Thanks again Silversurfer! I'll see what the flowers are like. The previous owner had big patches of Stinking Helleborus but the leaves were different from these. Daniel, the semp name escapes me right now - maybe after another cup of coffee - Thanks everyone! Been here a year but this half acre garden still has a lot of unknowns for me! Thank You!
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Sep 20, 2016 10:53 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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The leaves on Helleborus foetidus look very similar to the ID plant. How did the previous owners' differ?

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Sep 20, 2016 12:34 PM CST
Perthshire. SCOTLAND. UK
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Sep 22, 2016 1:43 PM CST
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Name: Patty
Washington State (Zone 8b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Photo Contest Winner 2021
Well, now I'm confused! The labeled Hellebores foetidus has wider leaves that are glossy. These leaves are narrow and matte - it does look like a Hellebore leaf, but maybe a different variety Shrug!

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Sep 22, 2016 2:47 PM CST
Perthshire. SCOTLAND. UK
Garden Photography Region: United Kingdom Plant Identifier
Narrow leaf = Helleborus foetidus.

http://www.aphotoflora.com/ima...

Wider leaf looks like Helleborus x hybridus.

https://www.google.co.uk/searc...
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Sep 22, 2016 11:51 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Patty
Washington State (Zone 8b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Photo Contest Winner 2021
Thanks again SS - the previous owner was an expert gardener and I never questioned her incorrect label on the cross. Thank You!
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Sep 23, 2016 2:14 AM CST
Perthshire. SCOTLAND. UK
Garden Photography Region: United Kingdom Plant Identifier
When they flower you will be able to tell them apart with ease.

Helleborus foetidus tends to seed around especially when it is happy..ie. in the shade.

Helleborus x hybridus can become an obsession...collecting different colours from white, yellow, pink, red, deep plum. Spotted. Single and double flowers.
They look stunning when floated in a glass bowl of water.

https://www.google.co.uk/searc...

There are other Helleborus I love...just for the interesting leaf shape.eg Helleborus multifidus subsp hercegovinus

http://www.louistheplantgeek.c...
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