Plant ID forum: Would like help IDing this.

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chewycwook
Sep 23, 2016 12:59 PM CST
It's growing in NY state if that helps. Thanks for looking!

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Name: Sue
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sooby
Sep 23, 2016 1:06 PM CST
Welcome! It looks like buckthorn, Rhamnus cathartica:


chewycwook
Sep 23, 2016 1:20 PM CST
Ah, thanks for the welcome! Looks like it. I was hoping for Aronia!
Name: Sue
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sooby
Sep 23, 2016 1:46 PM CST
Unfortunately Rhamnus cathartica is an invasive weed, listed as "noxious" in some areas. Birds like it though.
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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crawgarden
Sep 23, 2016 2:30 PM CST
Usually Buckthorn has some wicked thorns on them. Difficult to tell from the photo.
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Name: Rick R.
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Leftwood
Sep 23, 2016 2:47 PM CST
Buckthorns only have one small but strong thorn at the tip of each branch, as the growth on that branch stops for the season. There are male and female trees, and the females like yours, chewycwook, are the worst because they produce the seeds that invade native environments.

chewycwook
Sep 23, 2016 3:42 PM CST
Hurray! Thank You! very helpful folks here. I will have to keep an eye on her and try to prevent the babies from taking over the yard. I do find it an attractive plant.
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Sep 23, 2016 5:05 PM CST
The problem is that most of the berries are getting eaten by birds and carried away, and seeds excreted (and planted) somewhere else. That's great that you can watch your yard, but that's not curbing the spread of the species.

chewycwook
Sep 23, 2016 7:30 PM CST
Leftwood said:The problem is that most of the berries are getting eaten by birds and carried away, and seeds excreted (and planted) somewhere else. That's great that you can watch your yard, but that's not curbing the spread of the species.


I wouldn't plant a tree that is considered a weed, but chopping down one that is several years old and mature doesn't seem quite right to me either - is that what you're suggesting? Is the plant not local to begin with and is starting to take over around here? I have never seen one before. Seems odd to me someone would seek out to plant a tree like that that doesn't even have edible fruit.
Name: Sue
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sooby
Sep 23, 2016 8:32 PM CST
It's not native to North America, and is alternate host to a rust disease of oats - I see the rust on the buckthorns around here. Buckthorn is very common here in Ontario. You can read more about it in this assessement from the US Forest Service:

http://www.fs.fed.us/database/feis/plants/shrub/rhaspp/all.h...

Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Sep 23, 2016 9:31 PM CST
If I might nudge your way of thinking, yes, that's kinda what I was thinking... but didn't actually say.
The tree very well could have just grown there as a volunteer, or planted by someone that didn't know what he was planting. Lots of people grow trees for showy, inedible fruits: an ornamental crabapple for example.

If you really want an invasive buckthorn, grow a male that won't spread seed. And yes, cut down the female buckthorn that does spread seed. If you live in Canada or the USA, the tree is probably listed on the state or province's prohibited species list. It's a tree from Europe and Asia, not North America.

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plantladylin
Sep 24, 2016 10:50 AM CST
Looks like Common Buckthorn to me too; invasive for many areas, N.Y. state as well:
http://www.nyis.info/index.php?action=invasive_detail&id=20
https://www.nps.gov/plants/ALIEN/fact/rhca1.htm

On the prohibited list for N.Y.: http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/lands_forests_pdf/isprohibitedpla...
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