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Oct 11, 2016 8:24 AM CST
Name: Jim D
East Central Indiana (Zone 5b)
Annuals Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Garden Procrastinator Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Native Plants and Wildflowers Region: Indiana
Hummingbirder Frogs and Toads Dragonflies Cottage Gardener Butterflies Birds
from this
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to this
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and we have boiled down red Sorghum Should be about half the Jar ,, but I got tired of boiling it down it was good on Oatmeal though Smiling
In the Butterfly garden if a plant is not chewed up I feel like a failure
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Oct 11, 2016 12:07 PM CST
Southeast OK (Zone 7b)
Your making me hungry Jim!
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Oct 11, 2016 12:10 PM CST
Name: Mary
Lake Stevens, WA (Zone 8a)
Near Seattle
Bookworm Garden Photography Region: Pacific Northwest Plays in the sandbox Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader
Winter Sowing
Time Zones!
AAAgh this is confusing! I was off by a day last year when I tried to figure it out.
The U.K. does Daylight Savings Time Oct 30. Here in the U.S. this year it is Nov 6.
By the Swap starting at "midnight" GMT I guess is meant the moment when it becomes Nov 2 at the Greenwich Observatory in England, or GMT 0 (Which is basically the same as UMT). NOT what I think of as midnight of Nov 2, which I personally think of as the moment before it becomes Nov 3. Probably I am overthinking this, but it does kinda seem like a "story problem" in 4th grade. I always had trouble overthinking those.
So when I looked at the converter just now, it says for me in Seattle GMT -7 (minus 7) hours, but some other converters and time zone maps, it gives me GMT-8, I guess this is the difference of the daylight savings time which will have occurred in England but not here?
Anyway I think my swap time is 5pm local time on Nov 1. But maybe it is 4pm?
Probably I need to log into the converter on Nov 1 in the morning, after the U.K. Daylight Saving Time change but before my swap time, and confirm it.
Hey- I just had a thought- RickCorey you are a smart guy and you live 5 miles from me (how convenient), when do we start swapping?
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Oct 11, 2016 12:24 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Garden Ideas: Level 2
Mary, prior to the time change, you will be awarded your tickets at 5pm the night before (Seattle time)...meaning 5pm on Nov. 1.

On November 6, at 2am, the clocks are turned backward an hour. Since it occurs at 2am, just make sure your clocks are changed by mid-day and you should be set....but your new time will be at 4pm each evening (Seattle time).

Here's a different calculator that might be more beneficial: https://greenwichmeantime.com/...

...it allows you to use dates, too, to account for daylight savings time.
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Oct 11, 2016 12:41 PM CST
Name: Mary
Lake Stevens, WA (Zone 8a)
Near Seattle
Bookworm Garden Photography Region: Pacific Northwest Plays in the sandbox Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader
Winter Sowing
Thanks!
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Oct 11, 2016 12:56 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Garden Ideas: Level 2
I tip my hat to you.

Sorry to steal your opportunity to help, Rick. Rolling my eyes. I just happened to be researching how the time would impact me, too, and thought I would pipe in with answer.
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Oct 11, 2016 5:18 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Confused Confused Blinking Confused Confused

Your right answer was much better than my answer would have been.

I eventually figured out, last swap, that the Pacific Coast was Greenwich minus 7 (hence 5 pm here). At first I had thought "Greenwich minus 5, hence 7 pm".

But as to which day "Midnight" falls on: I have no idea and I doubt that the right answer will stick to my neurons. "Wraparound" and "byte order" were some of the hardest things to handle in software, for me.

But my policy would have been to check Wed or Thursday, then again Friday if necessary. I think you said "Thursday PM".

Now, add Daylight Savings Time to the mix a few days later? I would have figured out that it meant either 4 pm Seattle time, OR 6 pm. I'd have checked at 4 and again at 6. Or just checked at 6 to see whether I was the last one, that day, to spend my tickets.

That's how I always made serial cables in the lab: "is it 2 to 2 and 3 to 3, or 2 to 3 and 3 to 2 ??"
Try it both ways and see which works. Easier than either remembering OR figuring it out!

IF there were anything to this rumor that I'm smart, ( Thumbs down ) it has never extended to things like arithmetic or simple things like "if the clocks turn back one hour in Seattle, what time is it in Greenwich? (Or do they turn forward? And does the Earth turn clockwise or counterclockwise??)"

I have to try such things both ways and then figure out which was right.

Besides, "Greenwich" is a town in Connecticut, which ruins ALL of these theories!

Confused Confused Crying Confused Confused
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Oct 11, 2016 11:42 PM CST
Name: Mary
Lake Stevens, WA (Zone 8a)
Near Seattle
Bookworm Garden Photography Region: Pacific Northwest Plays in the sandbox Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader
Winter Sowing
Corey you always make me laugh!
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Oct 12, 2016 3:20 PM CST
Name: Val
Near Boston, MA (Zone 6a)
Time zone double check:

If you sign on to the swap page,

http://garden.org/apps/swap/

at the top, the website gives you the current time, so you can compare the current website/server time to YOUR time at any time, and figure out where you stand :D
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Oct 12, 2016 3:31 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Thanks, Val, that does make it easier.

I should forget about abstract wonderings like "which day does Midnight fall on?" and aim for 11:59 pm Nov 1 Greenwich time.

Or 00:01 Nov 2.

Meaning 5pm Nov. 1 Seattle time, as Libby said.
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Oct 12, 2016 3:41 PM CST
Name: Mary
Lake Stevens, WA (Zone 8a)
Near Seattle
Bookworm Garden Photography Region: Pacific Northwest Plays in the sandbox Seed Starter Plant and/or Seed Trader
Winter Sowing
Thanks Val I had not noticed that.
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Oct 14, 2016 2:37 AM CST
Name: Val
Near Boston, MA (Zone 6a)
This is not off-topic, but not sure where to post.

I have been checking in pretty much daily, going into the most recent events for the swap, and looking at new seeds posted, and rating them as to my "priority" of wants. Yesterday I noticed the ones I did the day before were not showing. Today I went in and marked them again. Closed the window and went back out, and went back in, and the ratings are not there for the last 24 hours or so.

Is something amiss??
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Oct 14, 2016 4:48 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Garden Ideas: Level 2
Good question. I haven't rated any seeds yet, so I'm not seeing that issue. Try completely logging out of your browser, though, and re-entering to make sure it isn't a cache issue. (If you're not familiar with what that is, it essentially means your computer saving what was previously there even though it is no longer that way).
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Oct 14, 2016 6:54 AM CST
Name: Val
Near Boston, MA (Zone 6a)
Thanks, DnD!
That seems to have done the trick. When in doubt, reboot.
I just never thought of that because I was coming in on different days.
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Oct 14, 2016 6:55 AM CST
Name: Val
Near Boston, MA (Zone 6a)
I noticed there are alot of new swappers this go around...I hope they will feel comfortable to join in on the chatting! :D
Nice to get to know everyone!
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Oct 14, 2016 9:26 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Chapin, SC (Zone 8a)
Keeps Sheep Daylilies Hybridizer Garden Photography Cat Lover Hummingbirder
Birds Region: South Carolina Plant and/or Seed Trader Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 2 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
How do you know which seeds are newly posted?
Leslie

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Joshua 24:15
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Oct 14, 2016 9:30 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Garden Ideas: Level 2
The easiest way is to click on the "View Recent Events" link.
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Oct 14, 2016 4:41 PM CST
Name: Lisa
Boston, MA. (Zone 6a)
Birds Dog Lover Foliage Fan Hummingbirder Seed Starter Winter Sowing
Avid Green Pages Reviewer
Hey Val, what day and time should we Bostonians start trading start?
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Oct 15, 2016 5:24 AM CST
Name: Val
Near Boston, MA (Zone 6a)
Oh, Lisa, you're taxing my brain here now....I'm trying to remember what time the Sept. swap started. It'll be 11/1 (even tho it's 11/2 on the "official time, cos it's midnight). I believe it was 8pm, BUT we are now going thru daylights savings time before, so that will throw us off an hour, I think!
Most likely, I will check in 6pm that day and check the official server time and guage the beginning of the swap from that :D

Are you looking for anything in particular, Lisa?
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Oct 15, 2016 5:50 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Garden Ideas: Level 2
Lol, I believe you guys should be on the same schedule as me, which means you should be checking in at 8pm on Nov 1, and 7pm on Nov 6 and after.

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