Annuals forum: Gloriosa daisy Rudbeckia Hirta

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John_fender
Sep 28, 2016 1:07 PM CST
Has anybody grown the Gloriosa Daisy mix from Stokes seeds ?
I am looking for a tall yellow Rudbeckia with red rings and that's the closest I found. I would like to know what's the plants and flowers look like in the garden
Here is the link:
http://www.stokeseeds.com/product.aspx?ProductID=38848

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Name: ZenMan
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ZenMan
Sep 30, 2016 6:50 PM CST
John_fender said:I am looking for a tall yellow Rudbeckia with red rings and that's the closest I found. I would like to know what's the plants and flowers look like in the garden

Hi John,

I suspect that Stokes offering is not exactly what you are looking for. This Rudbeckia has more prominent red rings.

http://www.hazzardsgreenhouse.com/Hazwho/product/R1968.html

However, Hazzard's offer a wide variety of Rudbeckia, and you might want to browse through them all.

http://www.hazzardsgreenhouse.com/Hazwho/SRCH.html?Category_...

Hazzards sell to both commercial growers and home gardeners, but their seed packages tend to run larger than most retail seed sellers. GeoSeeds also offer a wide variety of seeds, and they also cater to commercial growers, and possibly have a wider selection than Hazzard's, but GeoSeeds don't have a catalog with pictures, at least none that I know of.

http://www.geoseed.com/

ZM
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John_fender
Oct 3, 2016 5:25 AM CST
Thanks ZenMan
Hazzards has an impressive selection I enjoyed browsing it. Another plant of interest is a new species called echibekia (cross between rudbeckia hirta and echinacea) supposed to be more of a perennial rudbeckia hirta but I can't find seeds for it anywhere.
Wonder if you can cross zinnias with a cousin but can't think of any closely related as coneflower is to rudbeckias.
Name: ZenMan
rural Kansas (Zone 5b)
Kansas 5b
Annuals Keeper of Poultry Enjoys or suffers cold winters Bee Lover Dragonflies Garden Photography
Hybridizer Region: United States of America Hummingbirder Butterflies Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 2
ZenMan
Oct 3, 2016 8:15 AM CST
John_fender said: Another plant of interest is a new species called echibekia (cross between rudbeckia hirta and echinacea) supposed to be more of a perennial rudbeckia hirta but I can't find seeds for it anywhere.

Hi John,
You won't be able to find seeds for Echibeckia because intergeneric crosses are sterile. That is the big disadvantage of intergeneric hybrids. You should be able to buy plants of it, though.
John_fender said: Wonder if you can cross zinnias with a cousin but can't think of any closely related as coneflower is to rudbeckias.

I don't know of any intergeneric crosses involving zinnias. But that sterility thing is a deal breaker for me. There are some successful inter-species crosses involving zinnias and, in fact, the zinnias I am growing are called Zinnia hybrida because they have two different species of zinnias as their ancestors, Zinnia elegans and Zinnia haageana. Zinnia elegans is frequently called Zinnia violacea in the literature, because all of the commercial Zinnia elegans varieties were originally derived from the wildflower Zinnia violacea. Plant breeders have done a lot with zinnias.

ZM
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