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Name: Pamela Gregory
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PamelaLynn77
Oct 18, 2016 4:49 PM CST
I have posted about my persian shields in the past. 2 months ago I propagated 10 pieces of Persian shields from a very large one I had grown over the summer. I had 2 of them and wow they were awesome! Beautiful purple silver! I loved then so after I propagated them almost everyone of them rooted in plain water for me. I ended up with 8 rooted pieces they were perfect roots inches of them. So right before i had planted them we had a few cool nights and i took all my plants in and this was a problem, to make a long story short I had the persian shields in vases sitting inside a empty fish tank and rhey were getting light from a window and a light close by that way for another plant but the persian shields gir light from it too and that all work great. Then the problem cane I left rhem inside rhe fish tank kn a stand infront of a window for 2 day on the 3 morning I went to move them and noticed the persian shields had very black patches on tbier leaves all of them!!!! So i panicked and i planted them thinking idk what! Uh abd everyone of rhem rooted!!!!! Then they slowly started to die as the leaves were turning more black! This evwing i trashed the last 2 pieces and i cant tell you all how upset I am! I know they were all gonna be great plants by spring !
So was it lack of air in the fush tank?? Thats what I thought it was and after rooting rhe leaves still couldnt get proper air through them??? These are my guesses as to what happened. ..
Id really like to know what everyone else thinks. ...
Name: Tiffany
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purpleinopp
Oct 19, 2016 7:12 AM CST
It sounds like sunburn could be a possibility, or a surface pathogen exacerbated by lack of airflow. The wildly changing conditions can be a hard adjustment for plants. It's not uncommon for cuttings to discard all of their existing leaves while taking root. When that happens, snipping a little nip of the tip can let you see if it's still alive inside or not. If so, new foliage should appear soon. It's hard to cover the possible realm of guesses w/o seeing a pic, and may or may not help you figure out what happened.

IME with bring PS inside for winter for several yrs in OH & for about 5 yrs, it's a difficult plant to keep looking good over winter, but keeping it alive so it can go back out & be gorgeous again in the spring has always worked for me. Last minute cuttings in the fall after it's gotten chilly at night have been much less reliable than ones taken earlier while plants were still in prime condition. For that reason, I wouldn't rely only on fresh fall cuttings to sustain this plant over winter.

It's hard for me to keep up with the story of these plants with so many different posts about them. My memory just isn't that good. Wishing you every good vibe & the best luck though! The only way to succeed is to try.
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Name: Pamela Gregory
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PamelaLynn77
Oct 19, 2016 11:18 AM CST
I have tried to not get these post all mixed up unfortunately I'm not doing well with that at all. Thanks so much for your patiences!! I don't think Id made a post for the persian shields alone. Can I delete old post? Oh it be great if I could add post to other posts Id previously made and forgotten about it. .. oh I suck at organization! I was trying to set up a shelf for all my gardening tools and sprays , pots ect and its juat a big pile of grap on top a table with the stand sitting beside it empty. . Honestly if I told tou how much I frustrated myself we could all have a good laugh! I have to laugh about it if not Id cry and I dont feel like doing that. Lol Id perfer to laugh at myself if possible sometimes I dont laugh! Im pretty upset with myself with the persian shields. I feel i should have know better than to not give them proper air. I truly believe that is what happened. They were perfect roots leaves were still beautiful! Then the fish tank everything went down hill from there
Name: Pamela Gregory
Maryland (Zone 6b)
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PamelaLynn77
Oct 19, 2016 12:09 PM CST
I have tried to not get these post all mixed up unfortunately I'm not doing well with that at all. Thanks so much for your patiences!! I don't think Id made a post for the persian shields alone. Can I delete old post? Oh it be great if I could add post to other posts Id previously made and forgotten about it. .. oh I suck at organization! I was trying to set up a shelf for all my gardening tools and sprays , pots ect and its just a big pile of grap on top a table with the stand sitting beside it empty. . Honestly if I told tou how much I frustrated myself we could all have a good laugh! I have to laugh about it if not Id cry and I dont feel like doing that. Lol Id perfer to laugh at myself if possible sometimes I dont laugh! Im pretty upset with myself with the persian shields. I feel I should have know better than to not give them proper air. I truly believe that is what happened. They were perfect roots leaves were still beautiful! Then the fish tank idea!!! Then everything went down hill from there.
Name: Pamela Gregory
Maryland (Zone 6b)
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PamelaLynn77
Oct 19, 2016 12:24 PM CST
I should have taken more pics through this process and posted more because I thought once those last leaves started dying that the plant couldnt live with out at least one leaf.. That isnt always true as I had thought?? I cant remember where Id learned that but I thought if any plant lost all its leaves it couldnt live any more because it needs to take in air through the leaves? Is this incorrect, or vary depending on type of plant??? Or what??



After the last 4 persian shields were rooted they lost thier leaves very slowly but surly and it took about 7 to 10 day
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Name: Tiffany
Opp, AL (Zone 8b)
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purpleinopp
Oct 20, 2016 7:55 AM CST
Trees that lose their leaves for winter are an example. And there are some great ones in this discussion: The thread "What's your best "back from the dead" plant(s)?" in Houseplants forum
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Name: Pamela Gregory
Maryland (Zone 6b)
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PamelaLynn77
Oct 20, 2016 8:54 AM CST
PURPLEINOOP Have you seen my post about my persian shields?

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