Plant ID forum: beautiful Brazilian tree for ID please..

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Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Oct 30, 2011 8:38 AM CST
Hi,
I met these very often on my trip to Brazil, but still don't know who they are.
Any help very much appreciated! Smiling
Myriam
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Oct 30, 2011 4:42 PM CST
Hi Myriam,

Tricky! It reminded me of a Cashew tree, so I looked in family Anacardiaceae on Flora Brasil. I looked at each genus, one I found came close but the species was different. Campnosperma brevipetiolata.. .

http://www.comfsm.fm/~dleeling/botany/2000/vhp/campnosperma_...

Listed is Campnosperma gummifera for which I can't find a photo, but it has other names..

http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2695263

The Flora do Brasil site is working now..

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http:/...

By searching Drepanospermum gummiferum I found a drawing of the leaves of Campnosperma gummifera..

http://plantillustrations.org/taxa.php?id_taxon=776&language...
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Oct 30, 2011 5:53 PM CST
I'm not good at comparing photo's but could it be Cecropia?

http://www.google.com/search?q=cecropia+tree&hl=en&biw=1440&...

http://academic.evergreen.edu/projects/ants/antplants/CECROP...
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Oct 30, 2011 6:04 PM CST
You got it Lin! I see they are in Florida, but in Brazil there's a lot of different species. In the nettle family would you believe!

Urticaceae Cecropia concolor Willd.
Urticaceae Cecropia distachya Huber
Urticaceae Cecropia engleriana Snethl.
Urticaceae Cecropia ficifolia Warb. ex Snethl.
Urticaceae Cecropia glaziovii Snethl.
Urticaceae Cecropia hololeuca Miq.
Urticaceae Cecropia kavanayensis Cuatrec.
Urticaceae Cecropia latiloba Miq.
Urticaceae Cecropia membranacea Trécul
Urticaceae Cecropia metensis Cuatrec.
Urticaceae Cecropia obtusa Trécul
Urticaceae Cecropia pachystachya Trécul
Urticaceae Cecropia palmata Willd.
Urticaceae Cecropia peltata L.
Urticaceae Cecropia polystachya Trécul
Urticaceae Cecropia purpurascens C.C.Berg
Urticaceae Cecropia saxatilis Snethl.
Urticaceae Cecropia sciadophylla Mart.
Urticaceae Cecropia silvae C.C.Berg
Urticaceae Cecropia ulei Snethl
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Oct 30, 2011 6:08 PM CST
Janet: I've never seen one ... if they are in Florida they must be in the southern part of the state. The growth habit reminded me somewhat of the Schefflera so I googled for "Schefflera looking tree of Brazil" or something or other and the Cecropia is one that came up! Big Grin It sure is a pretty tree!
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threegardeners
Oct 30, 2011 6:13 PM CST
Ha! good one Lin!!

I love google Big Grin that's exactly how I do it too!
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Oct 30, 2011 6:14 PM CST
Someone on another forum used to call me the Google Queen and it sure fits ... I'm always googling for information on something or other!
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JRsbugs
Oct 30, 2011 6:22 PM CST
Lol, I thought it looked like Schefflera too Lin but I didn't use the correct search terms! I googled Cecropia palmata which showed Cecropia to be in Florida.

http://www.bonap.org/BONAPmaps2010/Cecropia.html
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Oct 30, 2011 6:43 PM CST
I found Cecropia peltata grows in southern Florida: http://www.floridata.com/ref/c/cecr_pel.cfm
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Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Oct 31, 2011 1:06 AM CST
Thanks for all the research work Janet! Smiling
Great de 'flora do Brasil' is working again, they even have mosses, fungi, ferns etc!


You got it Lin! It is Cecropia for sure! Thank you! Smiling

Wow, so very many species Janet! I'll google them all to compare them, just hope all have pictures on the web, but maybe I'll just have to keep it as Cecropia sp.
I never would have guessed it belonging to the nettle family!!Amazing!
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JRsbugs
Nov 1, 2011 7:45 AM CST
Cecropia peltata! Now known as Cecropia schreberiana. Look at the flowers and tassles..

http://fireflyforest.net/firefly/2006/07/22/pumpwood-cecropi...

http://labs1.eol.org/pages/591114
Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Nov 1, 2011 9:04 AM CST
I originally had also been thinking Cecropia peltata (C.schreberiana). The tassles do look the same!

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