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Feb 6, 2010 3:39 PM CST
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Name: starlight1153
AL.
I was reading a post and somebody mentioned they are going to be growing a tomato called bull heart.

Has anybody heard of it before or growed it? Supposedly they were saying the tomatoes are supposed to get up to 2 pounds.

I can't imagine a tomato weighign that much. Can that be for real?
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Feb 6, 2010 11:37 PM CST
Name: Joanne
Calgary, AB Canada (Zone 3a)
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LOL, They probably meant Oxheart. It's an Heirloom and sorta heart shaped
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Feb 7, 2010 4:41 AM CST
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Name: starlight1153
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LOL. Thanks Joanne ! : ) I have heard of Oxheart before. Didn't even possibly connect the two. Thought somebody had a ne wone I needed to try and find. ; )
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Feb 7, 2010 7:49 AM CST
Name: Franklin Troiso
Rutland, MA (Zone 5b)
Life is to short to eat rice cakes
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starlight - there is a tomato called bull's heart. that and goliath, delicious, german giant and virginia sweets are said to weight 2 to 5 pounds. if you are interested in growing big tomatoes you can go to page 32 of the tomatoe growers supply co.catalogue it is called the big tomato collection.

frank
visit www.cookfromtheheart.com
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Feb 7, 2010 8:45 AM CST
Name: Joanne
Calgary, AB Canada (Zone 3a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Canadian Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Roses
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Frank,
Just can't keep up to all the different varieties. Thanks for to correction
Rolling my eyes.
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Feb 7, 2010 8:47 AM CST
Name: Franklin Troiso
Rutland, MA (Zone 5b)
Life is to short to eat rice cakes
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the only reason i knew about it was that i was planning on ordering that collection and saw the name.
visit www.cookfromtheheart.com
frank
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Feb 7, 2010 5:46 PM CST
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Name: starlight1153
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THanks Frank. I have the catalog, so will have to give it a try.

The weather been so crazy and so bad, that sometimes bigger growing tomatoes seem to shrink here. Maybe if I plant one s that supposed to be huge I might get a decent size one. At least one that will fill the whole slice of my bread.

Which reminds me, when I was in Walmart the other day, saw the Ugly tomatoes for sale again. They only come to sale once a year here. If I have the seed, do you think it will come true?
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Feb 8, 2010 6:22 AM CST
Name: Franklin Troiso
Rutland, MA (Zone 5b)
Life is to short to eat rice cakes
Charter ATP Member
they were discussing what the largest tomato ever grown weighed on the other dg site LOL and carolyn said it was a delicious tomato and it came in at 7 pounds 12 ounces. i do not know anything about ugly tomatoes. sorry.
visit www.cookfromtheheart.com
frank
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Feb 23, 2010 12:47 PM CST
Name: NA Olson
Northcoast Ohio
Starlight --

We grew Bulls Heart in 2008. It was large but not a Fair winner. Nice tomato, meaty, sweet, but not a lunker.

Last year we grew Cleota's Pink which gave us some monsters even though the season was so cool here. It's sweeter rather than tangy, meaty, and was the favorite of both my mother and a friend. Original seed was from TN, I believe, so maybe it would be happy where you are, too! Smiling

Our Kelloggs Breakfast tomatoes were huge last year, too. 'Course we weren't going for a 7lb tomato, but they were PLENTY big enough. They would dwarf your bread unless you cut one of those round loaves in half around its equator or something. Then it might just fit. LOL
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Feb 23, 2010 5:52 PM CST
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Name: starlight1153
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Thank you for the information! : ) At least I know the plants I have won't be too bad. Goign to have to check out the other two you mentioned. Now I am an avid bread eater and can and will eat a whole loaf of french bread in one sitting, but if worse came to worse, can just use a couple of tomatoes. LOL

I will be so glad when the first home grown tomatoes from anybody arrive. The ones in the store you can tell caught some of that frost damage and taste so bland and blah.
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Apr 16, 2019 1:15 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
Here ya go Starlight.
https://www.piedmontfarmandgar...
http://www.tomatogrowers.com/B...

Did not order Bull's Heart due to shipping cost but did order Green Zebra and Abe Lincoln from Piedmont.
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Apr 16, 2019 3:22 PM CST
Name: SoCal
Orange County (Zone 10a)
Lazy Gardener or Melonator
I have Goliath and Abe Lincoln. I going to start sowing them.
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Apr 16, 2019 4:05 PM CST
Name: Paul Fish
Brownville, Nebraska (Zone 5b)
Here are a couple of photos from Tatiana's website:
Bull's Heart for me comes in at12 to 18 ounces and is an excellent choice


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Bull's Heart

This one is Butter and Bull Heart and averages 14 to 16 ounces in my garden. Both are very tasty, on the sweet side as are most hearts. They are very meaty, solid and juicy with few seeds. B&B Heart is one of my favorite hearts.

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Butter and Bull Heart

Oxheart is a different heart but similar in size, shape and taste. There are several with the name Oxheart. I never met a heart I didn't love. You can't go wrong with any of them.
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Apr 16, 2019 4:10 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
PaulF said:
Bull's Heart for me comes in at12 to 18 ounces and is an excellent choice

Just the type of real world info I like. I tip my hat to you.
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Apr 16, 2019 7:44 PM CST
Name: Deborah
Southern California (Zone 10a)
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What do they look like sliced horizontally?
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Apr 16, 2019 8:41 PM CST
Name: Paul Fish
Brownville, Nebraska (Zone 5b)
sliced Bull's Heart:


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Apr 16, 2019 9:24 PM CST
Name: Deborah
Southern California (Zone 10a)
Rabbit Keeper
That was nice of you Paul! Thank you. I've only seen them sliced vertically and wondered why?
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Apr 17, 2019 8:20 AM CST
Name: Paul Fish
Brownville, Nebraska (Zone 5b)
I suppose to show the heart shape.
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Apr 17, 2019 12:50 PM CST
Name: Deborah
Southern California (Zone 10a)
Rabbit Keeper
Yes, hadn't thought of that. Pretty tomatoes!
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Apr 18, 2019 12:02 AM CST

There are literally dozens of Oxheart and similar cultivars around: without careful hybridization records (or expensive genetic testing) it's impossible to say which are the genuine article or its descendants and which bear just a passing semblance.

The original Oxheart, in spite of all the praise, is a very finicky plant: it's extremely vulnerable to a host of diseases and like the original (unimproved) San Marzano is very susceptible to blossom end rot. Unless somebody intends using it as part of a hybridization program it's better to skip it and buy one of the many improved/hybrid varieties available now. Just be mindful that while commercial varieties are very resistant, they are also late producers and their tomatoes taste like watery lumps of nothingness.

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