Thanks for that reminder, zuzu. I removed all the Roses from the above linked report.

According to that site neither Agastache barberi or A. mexicana are accepted specie names.

But here is a report on this plant from a nursery?
Interesting Notes

'Tutti Frutti' is a grand and vigorous agastache hybrid with narrow tubular blossoms of fairest lavender pink. It blooms for months in well-drained, sunny sites atop 4' stems of lightly scented green leaves. Try it with silvery Plectranthus argentatus, with a carpet of magenta Petunia integrifolia at its feet; You will love it! Hybridized from southwestern A. barberi and A. mexicana by Richard 'Salvia Man' Dufrense of Greensboro, NC. http://www.northcreeknurseries...

So would we just leave all mention of what was used in the cross to make this hybrid?

All the Acers seem legit except for 'Flame', that looks like one and the same.

Personally, for that agastache, I would remove the cross and add it to the comments section.

I see something on the list that's not a duplicate at all: Aquilegia 'Flore Pleno'

I've grown both of the plants and they're nothing alike. One's a yellow Aquilegia and the other's a purple Paraquilegia.

I really like the comments section, but prefer to have plant information in the Primary Plant Details sections. Like we have in the bottom of this entry. Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Director Jacobs')
For me the comment area applies more to peoples experiences with the plant.

Yes, most likely when there are two different species, they are different plants. (unless they have been recently reclassified) Like with the Acers, names like 'Alba', 'Glauca', 'Aureum', 'Prostrata' are all descriptive as is 'Flore Pleno' so the species is needed to differentiate between the plants in question.

Oh yes, I see now Lynn and I agree, the Primary Plant Details section would be better.

Where is the swimming head emoticon?

<<< That's it for me.

I love having all of that type of information for any kind of plant in the Primary Plant Details. Right there before my eyes, so I won't miss any of it.

Then I love to read the comments on every ones experiences in growing the plant.

Ahhh yes, this one works. It says it all.

I checked and think it would be safe for me to remove the duplicate buddleja's, leaving the ones with species in the database after checking for images first.

valleylynn said:According to that site neither Agastache barberi or A. mexicana are accepted specie names.

But here is a report on this plant from a nursery?
Interesting Notes

'Tutti Frutti' is a grand and vigorous agastache hybrid with narrow tubular blossoms of fairest lavender pink. It blooms for months in well-drained, sunny sites atop 4' stems of lightly scented green leaves. Try it with silvery Plectranthus argentatus, with a carpet of magenta Petunia integrifolia at its feet; You will love it! Hybridized from southwestern A. barberi and A. mexicana by Richard 'Salvia Man' Dufrense of Greensboro, NC. http://www.northcreeknurseries...

So would we just leave all mention of what was used in the cross to make this hybrid?

Lynn, here's what I've come up with.
from ITIS: Agastache pallida (syn. Agastache barberi) http://www.itis.gov/servlet/Si...
from WCSPF: Agastache mexicana http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/named...
So: A. pallida x A. mexicana

The Plant List is another good ref. site. http://www.theplantlist.org/tp...

So what would be the correct way to put this entry for Agastache 'Tutti Frutti' together?

Lynn, if you search on the Royal Horticultural Society site here they usually give the correct naming, that is if the plant is listed.

http://apps.rhs.org.uk/horticu...

To find the details I searched Agastache Tutti Frutti then clicked on the cultivar name Tutti Frutti.

Parentage: Agastache mexicana 'Toronjil Morado' × A. pallida subsp. pallida

As there's already a cultivar involved in the parentage that gets messy. If you have another place to put the parentage it would be good as many are obviously not giving the correct one.

I guess I'm really misunderstanding then. My idea for the database for iris was for all the irises to be like this one:


Siberian Iris (Iris 'Active Duty')

It would be listed in the database under Iris and then the cultivar name. That's it. And then when one clicked on the name they would see the details, such as it's a siberian.

Please help me with what I'm not understanding. I thought this would make it uniform, and the iris, no matter the type would be in alpha order. Like the rose database.

Perhaps as Sue said, it could become the second common name, Iris siberica Active Duty.

Polly, I know what you mean. That's my idea for the Clematis database. Everything in alphabetical order under "Clematis," with no species names until you open the entry and learn the species. Of course, there are some species without cultivar names in both genera, but they get tucked away neatly at the end.

The reason that the rose section does this so neatly, however, is that virtually all of the roses in it are hybrids and therefore don't have a species to list.

We can work on changing how the order of the plants is in the "Browse by genus" field, but if a species field belongs in the botanical name, then we need to keep it, otherwise the database will never be seen as complete and authoritative.

Said another way, let's not leave out critically important information just for the sake of making a list of plants sort the way we want it sorted. We can change the sorting all we want, and over-ride the species in the sort if we want to do that.

But Siberian Irises are called 'Iris sibirica' and that's the name we need to have in the DB.

Are there any other concerns about this, other than the sorting issue in the "Browse by genus" page?

Undertood, Zu, but my idea was that the iris database would look like the rose on, very streamlined that way.

Just to make it a little more clear. Bearded iris, which are the most we're going to have, is genus Iris, subgenus Iris, and section Iris, whereas a siberian iris for ex is genus Iris, subgenus Limniris, section Sibiricae. If all this info is to be put in, I'd like to see it after you open the entry, as Zu says.

And yes, there are some straight species that will never conform to my thinking, and always be at the end, I suppose.