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Feb 15, 2014 8:15 AM CST
Name: Susie
Leonard, Minnesota (Zone 3b)
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I think mine has more color on the outside of the lily and we can't really see the inside of the other lily so it's really hard to tell from the pictures. It's always possible. I went through my receipt records after I posted my original picture and found that I had purchased "Red Hot" which I'm sure is what this is. Other people on ATP have this cultivar and I would be curious to know if theirs ever fasciate. If this cultivar does have a tendency toward fasciation or like the other ones is just an anomaly.
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Mar 12, 2014 8:55 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Here's another fascinated 'Red Hot'. One of my Facebook friends who also grows many lilies has it. I've asked for more photos in full bloom and more information.
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Mar 13, 2014 2:58 AM CST
Name: Anthony Weeding
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
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Lookin like 'green chilli's' ,. there Lorn .. Very Ugly, but in another way beautiful! Thumbs up
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Mar 13, 2014 6:38 AM CST
Name: Susie
Leonard, Minnesota (Zone 3b)
Annuals Herbs Heucheras Canning and food preservation Irises Lilies
Region: Minnesota Native Plants and Wildflowers Peonies Sedums Seed Starter Vegetable Grower
It looks like a possibility that this variety has a tendency for fasciation. It will be interesting to see what your friend says Lorn.
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Mar 13, 2014 8:21 AM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Well, Susie, for quite a while I have suspected that some cultivars were more prone to fasciation than others. And, here, all the while I had some proof right under my nose and never noticed. It all relates back to a lilium Regale I have that fascinates nearly annually and Rick and I are kinda following it. Rick and I have been discussing virus's lately, so, naturally, me being a novice, I have to study-up a little when I talk to Rick. So, I pull this book out by Edward McRae, called 'Lilies' Guide for Growers and Collectors. The book flops open to page 92. Two words catch my eye: 114 flowers. I continue reading. And here I'll quote: "The tendency to fasciate is definitely genetic, and very warm temperatures in spring seem to trigger its expression. No disease is present, however, and plants usually produce normal growth the following year". I feel better knowing he stated that because it's something I suspected all along. I'll bet you a coffee, your Red Hot will fasciate again!
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Mar 13, 2014 11:05 AM CST
Name: Brian
Ontario Canada (Zone 5b)
Roosterlorn said:It's pretty difficult to trace because the picture alone was apparently extracted from a previous post and then reposted by another individual (without reference to the original poster). I tend to be more forgiving of poor grammar when English is the second language of the individual trying to communicate with me.

Let's get back on topic: Does anyone think the lily in the infamous picture and Susie's lily might be the same cultivar?


Just a quick last note on the "cardiocrinum" . I found the original post and the person who posted it is from Quebec so English is definitely not his first language. I also sent him reference material to show him the difference between his lily and a cardiocrinum.
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Mar 13, 2014 8:38 PM CST
Name: Susie
Leonard, Minnesota (Zone 3b)
Annuals Herbs Heucheras Canning and food preservation Irises Lilies
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>>>very warm temperatures in the spring seem to trigger it's expression
Lorn, I don't think that was applicable with my Lily when it fasciated last year as we had a very late, cool, spring and summer. Shrug!
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Mar 17, 2014 7:28 PM CST

I never kept track of the fasciation in my fields but every year some Asiatics, orientals and trumpets/OT's would fasciate, not always the same cultivar, and if they were sturdy enough got cut for the Farmer's market. Many had to just get disbudded or they would break. We also had warm/cold spells during springs in Oregon, with the exception of just plain hot springs. None as bad as what we had here (WA) last spring, very hot for 5-10 days then very cold for 5-10 days, and vise-versa, over and over again. None of the lilies I had here in the ground fasciated, but then that was early (for here) starting in June it got miserably hot and stayed that way until Oct. Which at least got me some Oriental seeds I did not expect to get here but I did have to cut the stem and bring them in.
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Jun 17, 2014 10:54 AM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Not a sign of fasciation or fussed buds around here this year. What happened? Not even my dependable fasciating study Regale! Confused Rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 17, 2014 4:22 PM CST
Lincoln, NE
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No, really?!
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Jun 21, 2014 7:42 AM CST
Name: Brian
Ontario Canada (Zone 5b)
Roosterlorn said:Not a sign of fasciation or fussed buds around here this year. What happened? Not even my dependable fasciating study Regale! Confused Rolling on the floor laughing


I have some fasciated Graffiti and a few other funky things going on with some of my plants this year.

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These are of a plant Joe Nemmer bred that is really weird this year. It has 8 petals and 10 stamens on one flower, another has the proper 6 petals with 9 stamens and the pedicles are placed in a strange arrangement , extra long and the stem with leaves continues on above the pedicles. Last year it was perfectly normal looking

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This OT has deformed leaves, the stem is short has a small bend /break in in and continues on with a few flowers.

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This Trumpet lily has decided to grow after all and is just now 3 inches tall.
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Jun 21, 2014 6:33 PM CST
Lincoln, NE
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I have a stem that took a weird turn. Saw a few of this kind of thing the year (2007) we had that long freeze in April.
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A twinned stem
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Some minor ribbon fasciation
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Jun 21, 2014 6:55 PM CST
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What's new? Just more weird stuff at Moby's!
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Jun 21, 2014 10:16 PM CST
Lincoln, NE
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nodding
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Jun 22, 2014 5:02 AM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
I see there's a car collector in the neighborhood too. Looks like a Chrysler from the later 1950's similar to one my uncle had--a 300 G,

Anyway, finding something unusual around here this year would be like finding a four leaf clover. There ain't none! Things are 2 to 3 weeks behind average schedule here this year along the shoreline. Lots of foggy days in the 60's F range. Lots of buds.
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Jun 25, 2014 2:29 AM CST
Name: Anthony Weeding
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
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The Chrysler 300's were the fastest , Lorn..55/56/ 57 I think!
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Jun 25, 2014 7:21 AM CST
Lincoln, NE
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It's a '60 Desoto Adventurer.
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Aug 15, 2014 8:44 PM CST
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Bee Lover Lilies Pollen collector Seed Starter Region: Wisconsin
This lingering L. henryi mix looks like it wanted to fasciate but formed two small branches instead. It is a large, vigorous double nose. The other stem turned flat but didn't fascinate (last two pictures).
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The other stem.


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Aug 16, 2014 12:02 PM CST
Lincoln, NE
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A strange one, indeed. Great photos.
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Jun 23, 2016 4:44 PM CST

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I realize that this is an older thread but wanted to say it showed up when reading about Fasciation in Lilies on Google and it has the best info on the NET on this thread....
glad we have some very knowledgeable people on the board here that can explain this so well

Laughed at Lorne though reading McRae's book............I read the same thing last night........
that book has kept me up late at night on more then one occasion
a must read I feel for anyone interested in lilies.....

I hope to post a pic of the fascinated Regale Album soon here and our temps are as McRae said very warm for spring in this area this year although the lilies themselves are slow coming this year.... lack of rain maybe........not sure...........it is very dry here and hot almost everyday....... We also had what I read as well a thaw free the whole winter this year..........about 8 times or more.... No wander plants get confused and do this........temps must play a huge part in this

thanks again for the info

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