And that's very good advice Fred. I believe 99% of what I crossed this past season was eyes and edges. And I think most of the seed I bought from the LA was as well. Kim does the spider/ufs so I don't bother with them.
My problem this past season was putting too many different pollens on one pod parent. For any newbies to hybridizing, just because you have a pod the size of a golf ball doesn't mean it's filled with seeds. I had some that had maybe 2 or 4 in them.
This next season my focus is eyes & edges and teeth. Anything else I have will be to make seed to sell.
I'm just barely starting out and don't have any room to speak of, but I'm concentrating on teeth. I was hoping to get into exotic eyes too, but that's just too much for me at this point. If my cats don't manage to kill all my tiny little seedlings hopefully I might see something next year. But I've pretty much written off this year, especially with my knee problem, so anything I get will be very enthusiastically received!
And my best pod parent this year without doubt was BASS GIBSON, followed by WAY COOL and STIPPLED STARSHIP. I would love it if people would post the names of their best pod parents here. I would like to keep a list of any I have that are good pod parents that I can refer to -- although this year it was mainly whatever was in bloom at the time I started that prompted my decisions.
I got off to a late start, and unfortunately we go out of town each year for two weeks at probably the optimal time for making crosses, but my husband really counts on going to the beach each year at around that time and we're booked two years in advance -- but hopefully I can move us over time to accommodate my daylilies opening while it's still cooler weather and the crosses might actually take!
Here's a few photos of the size of the other seedlings.
You can see that some are smaller than the others. Some of these have shrank with the cooler weather and are now trying to put on growth again with some of our warmer days.
Betty at least you know what you want to work with. I know very little about toothie daylilies, Lillian's First Bite was from a cross I would have never made if I were doing teeth. Neither parent had teeth in the back ground that I am aware of. James Hall has many toothie parents, maby Michele could find out which set seed the best.
Jan if your collecting bee pods you are already wanting to do some of your own, do just a few this coming season and you will be hooked when they bloom.
Looking good Michele as always.
Name: Dot or Dorothy Parker Fort Worth TX (Zone 8a)
I love orange and two of my best pod setters are Trimmers "Parrots of the Caribbean" and "Orange Blossom Trail". There are pictures in the database. Also "Wonder of it All" and "Violet Becomes You" are exceptional pod setters. A new one this year that set pods well was "Very Berry Candy".
Oh Fred, you are correct - I probably will do some this coming year. I just need to "contain my enthusiasm" and figure out what I want to do, with what. I know I want to cross some of these heirloom dips from the cottage with some of the newer ones, to see what I get, but beyond that, I haven't figured out what I like the most, besides bold colors. I haven't figured out my goals yet.
Teeth? fringe? doubles? spiders? ?????
Everyone is correct, I need to set some goals and work toward that. It's not like I can plant several hundred seedlings, I need to be selective, and work toward just a couple of goals. Just haven't found them yet. ~Jan
Betty, I know James uses a lot of Townsend and Gossard toothy things for pods. Brantlee Phillips is one he used this past season for sure. This next season he will be using Toopher for a pod parent as well. If you have GOD SAVE THE QUEEN, it sets pods well. It doesn't show the teeth here for me, but it does elsewhere. Here is a photo of a seedling (I think this is the one) James has out of LILLIAN'S JINGER BRED. I will have to look and see who the pod parent is when I go back over there. I will also look and see which toothy things he kept for pod parents.
James will also be using a lot of non-toothy pod parents to set toothy pollen on.
LILLIAN"S MUD BUG STEW sets pod on just about every bloom and it shows teeth for me.
ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL is very pod fertile, you could put your toothy pollen on it
WOW! What a fantastic seedling! Please tell James I'm sooooooooo impressed!!! And thanks for letting me know about the pod parents. I'm going to start a list right here on the computer. And MERRY CHRISTMAS too!
Do you know if LILLIAN'S GINGER BRED works as a pod parent? I'm thinking that's a couple of toothies now where someone has mentioned LILLIAN'S JINGER BRED in the parentage, but maybe it's as a pollen parent...
LILLIAN'S FIRST BITE and that seedling has LJB as the pod parent. Ann (Farmerbell) has 2 out of LJB; I know one has it as pollen parent, not sure about the other. It is pod fertile, I will be using it as a pod parent this next season with toothy pollen. I'll either put DR. STUMP on her or a toothy seedling (GERARD DESCHENES x RUCKUS)
Hears a few more from Lillian's First Bite that bloomed this past season, do not remember what the pollen was, will have to look it up. Not crazy about the color, maby it will improve as a two year old.
Dot, I just realized I forgot to thank you for sharing your pod parent information with us. That's great information, and I now have both of those daylilies (thanks twice over Michele)! And I keep looking at Fred's seedlings from LILLIAN'S JINGER BRED -- think I'm going to have to get LJB now -- I'll be emailing you about it, Fred.
As Michelle mentioned, I bought seeds from Fred several years that had Lillian's Jinger Bred as the pollen parent. I had ten seeds and there wasn't an ugly seedling in the bunch. I still grow 6 of these seedlings. They are so nice that I will probably always find a place for them in my yard. I have registered two of them, the two that have the best rebloom.
I knew from the first bloom that this one was special. It has a 7" bloom with a ruffle that is 1/2 to 1" wide. That is pretty good in a zone 6 garden. It is named GRANDMA'S RUFFLED CURTAINS. The second photo is a collage of several blooms. You will have to click on the image to see the whole thing.
The second one I registered (POLAR SNOW) is a near white that has great rebloom, often putting up a third set of scapes in the fall. While neither has the bud count that I would like, the rebloom makes up for that. In fact I was surprised when I counted bud scars because both bloomed for 5-6 weeks.
More photos of POLAR SNOW. Click on the image to see all of the photos.
Ok, now I have to buy back my own cross, I did bid on GRC when it was on the auction, but was not home when the auction closed and someone else got it. Great seedlings Ann.
