Plant ID forum: pretty small wildflower

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Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Nov 22, 2011 2:53 AM CST
I don't manage to find an ID for this delicate beauty. I photographed it last year in the nature reserve.
The plant was not tall, maybe around 20-30cm.
Only one picture unfortunately..

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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Nov 22, 2011 6:56 AM CST
I'm sure it's a Veronica Myriam, the flowers and seed pods are much like the tall one I have but that has serrated foliage edges.

This is similar..Veronica barrelieri subsp. nitens but not quite right

http://www.actaplantarum.org/floraitaliae/viewtopic.php?t=14...

Veronica barrelieri ssp. barrelieri.. no

http://www2.arnes.si/~bzwitt/flora/veronica_barrelieri_ssp._...

Veronica maritima.. serrate foliage

http://www2.arnes.si/~bzwitt/flora/veronica_maritima.html

Veronica spicata..

http://nature.jardin.free.fr/vivace/ft_veronica_spicata.html

A hybrid of V. spicata which doesn't have serrate foliage..

http://www.growsonyou.com/photo/slideshow/3489-veronica-spic...

This one does have serrate foliage but it's close! I wonder if there are two types of foliage with the ones near the flowers being simple..

http://www.flowerspictures.org/flower-pictures_3/spike-speed...

The wild V. spicata here has simple foliage.. but deeper purple flowers, spicata looks like the one, it will vary in different situations.

http://www.brc.ac.uk/plantatlas/index.php?q=plant/veronica-s...

http://www.hlasek.com/veronica_spicata_ab8274.html

Veronica longifolia is similar..

http://www.hlasek.com/veronica_longifolia_4497.html

The flowers look closer to longifolia if these pics are correct, leaves look serrate ..

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-59672797/stock-photo-clump-s...

Leaves also look broader.. yours could be broader further down the stem..

http://www.ofnc.ca/fletcher/research/inventories/wildflowers...

Herbarium specimen seems to rule longifolia out..

http://www.linnean-online.org/206/

Not sure!

http://www.sarkanperennataimisto.fi/kuvat/Veronica_longifoli...

http://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Plik:Veronica_long...

Veronica longifolia 'Exaltata' (the next two links don't work but are in the page of pics on wiki)

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Veronica_longifolia_'...

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Veronica_longifolia_'...

All pics of longifolia have broader foliage..

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Veronica_longifol...

http://luirig.altervista.org/flora/taxa/floraspecie.php?gene...

Veronica spicata looks most likely.

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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Nov 22, 2011 7:22 AM CST
Photos of C. spicata in the wild..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/divji_svet/4815368039/in/set-72...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/divji_svet/4823114763/in/set-72...

V. longifolia... foliage not shown on the paler one, foliage definitely very serrate on others.

http://www.pbase.com/hhf/image/114412638

http://www.pbase.com/hhf/wildflowers&page=14

http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?enlarge=0000+000...

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Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Nov 22, 2011 7:37 AM CST
Thanks Janet, my first thought was exactly Veronica spicata, but after googling pictures I came back on that, because the flower spikes are so densely covered with flowers, while mine has the very tiny flowers widely apart along the spike..
Could it be a mall nourished veronica spicata perhaps? Hilarious!
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Nov 22, 2011 7:44 AM CST
That was my thoughts Myriam, it could also be a first year flowering. I can't see it would be anything else, but it could be. Rolling my eyes. Hilarious!

It might be reaching for the sun and not found it too. Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Ferns Native Plants and Wildflowers Cat Lover Birds Bee Lover
Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Frogs and Toads Plant Identifier
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bonitin
Nov 22, 2011 8:45 AM CST
Thanks Janet, I also don't see another option! Rolling my eyes.

I'll try to remember where exactly I found it, next year it might have grown more mature Hilarious!

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