Plant ID forum: (Dorstenia arifolia) in Brazil

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Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Dec 7, 2011 2:49 AM CST
This is an unusual attractive fern, I met it several times in dark places of the rainforest, Paraty, Brazil. The way it makes its spores is rather original for a fern almost looking like a flower.. Rolling my eyes.
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Dec 7, 2011 4:58 AM CST
No luck so far Myriam! I found a site with a few pages of ferns in Brazil which you might have as well.

http://www.floranopolis.net/archives/category/plants-2/plant...

I don't know if this site will help, they have around 500 ferns including tropical ones. Ugh, they used to have lots of ferns listed but have transferred the business to Bowden Hostas, shop is closed now and I guess it won't be showing the same number of ferns as before.

http://www.world-of-ferns.co.uk/

Other fern links ..

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/hosted_sites/bps/nurseries.htm
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Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Dec 7, 2011 6:24 AM CST
Thanks Janet! The first link has given me already the Id of two other ones. Thumbs up Hope I got it right..

Microgramma percussa
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On another location
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Pleopeltis sqalida
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Probably the same, but this one was taken in Itamonte the previous time I went to Brazil in 2004
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Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Dec 7, 2011 10:12 AM CST
I think the first is correct, can't say for sure with the second but it looks close. There's a lot of species which are not well represented.

Elaphoglossum potosianum is similar to the original one posted! I thought it could be in Polypodiopsida, so found it on EOL, it could be a lead..

http://eol.org/pages/6094719/overview

http://www.flickr.com/photos/aztekium/4476085321/in/photostr...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polypodiopsida

Microsorium dilatatum is similar but it's in Asia.. you might find there's two types of spore.

http://crassa.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2010/09/index.html

Rare ferns is where I got my lead..

http://www.rareferns.com/

So many can be similar in looks but belong to a different genus or family though. More searching usually brings up more results.
Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Dec 7, 2011 11:43 AM CST
Thank you Janet!

Elaphoglossum potosianum has something in common with the original one posted in its fertile fronds..so maybe yes, is related..

Rare ferns has some very interesting specimen, some have resemblance to other ferns I need an ID for..
But it might prove an impossible task to get them ID! Rolling my eyes.
We better leave it here.. Smiling


Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Charter ATP Member Ferns Native Plants and Wildflowers Cat Lover Birds Bee Lover
Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Frogs and Toads Plant Identifier
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bonitin
Dec 10, 2011 3:41 AM CST
The plant is not a fern actually, no wonder we couldn't find it! Hilarious! My thanks to Tony Rodd who found the family and genus. Then I managed to find the species, it is Dorstenia arifolia - Moraceae Hurray!
http://fm1.fieldmuseum.org/vrrc/?page=view&id=34606&PHPSESSI...
http://plantgenera.org/species.php?id_species=356267&languag...
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
Charter ATP Member Organic Gardener Garden Photography Bee Lover Dragonflies Cat Lover
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JRsbugs
Dec 10, 2011 7:28 AM CST
Lol, I did wonder if it might be something else but it is so fern-like!

Nice to put a name to it!

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