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Dec 7, 2011 8:47 AM CST
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Hello,

I've browsed a great number of plant books, but nowhere I found this species. Does anyone know what this is? The picture is from early August (Dutch climate). Thanks!
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Dec 7, 2011 9:45 AM CST
Name: Sherry
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Calla lily? Amorphophallus? Will amorphophallus grow there? Some type of aroid.....
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
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Dec 7, 2011 10:36 AM CST
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It does indeed resemble the seed head of Amorphophallus.
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Dec 7, 2011 11:30 AM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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Maybe "Lords and Ladies" Arum italicum before the new leaves grow.

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Dec 7, 2011 11:34 AM CST
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Arum, pest here!!!
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Dec 7, 2011 11:37 AM CST
Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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I feel sure it is Arum italicum I have them in the garden.
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Dec 8, 2011 3:19 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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I have them also. The leaves are so beautiful all through winter and into early spring.
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Dec 8, 2011 4:57 PM CST
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That's Arum italicum and it's so incredibly invasive here that I've ceased to find any part of it beautiful.
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Dec 8, 2011 6:28 PM CST
Name: Sherry
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Interesting...I've never had it pop up anywhere before.....
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Dec 8, 2011 7:08 PM CST
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One of my neighbors had a houseplant of it about 25 or 30 years ago and planted it outside. It has now spread to all of the 40 or 50 homes in my neighborhood. It covers the garden from October to March, obscuring all of the shorter plants. It's apparently impossible to kill too. One of my neighbors got rid of it by mowing it for years, but it came back from all of the surrounding gardens, so he finally sold his house to get away from it.

And it doesn't just spread underground. It ends up in my plant containers and my fish ponds and even grows in the little bit of soil that collects in the crook where branches of trees meet the trunk.
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Dec 8, 2011 7:14 PM CST
Name: Lynn
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I dispose of the berries before they start falling to the ground, so I haven't had a problem with them becoming invasive. They have been here since the 50's.
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Dec 8, 2011 7:16 PM CST
Name: Lynn
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It must be your climate that makes it so invasive. That really sounds terrible, but it doesn't do that way here.
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Dec 8, 2011 7:40 PM CST
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I try to pull the top portion off the plants way before they produce berries. I used to try digging them up, but that just releases a dozen little bulbs from the big one and compounds the problem. I think they end up in the containers when birds pick up the berries from other gardens and drop them here.
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Dec 8, 2011 8:17 PM CST
Name: Sherry
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I have amorphophallus. I don't think (hope) I'l have the same problem with that....we're so much drier down here that I wouldn't think so.
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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Dec 13, 2011 4:30 PM CST
Name: Pierre
Quebec, Canada (Zone 3b)
Arisaema fruit are very similar
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Quebec, Canadian zone 4b, snow cover ??? we know at the end of winter
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Dec 16, 2011 4:24 AM CST
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Wow! I thought I would get replies by e-mail, so I didn't check this forum for a while, thinking there were no replies. Following JRsbugs' links I believe it must be the Arum Italicum. I had no idea it was so invasive. I wonder how the garden will look like next spring. Thank you all! Thumbs up
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Dec 16, 2011 5:57 AM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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It depends on where you are on how invasive it is limboy, in the UK it's not invasive and is slow to increase so it's looked on as something interesting and favourable.

We don't normally email anyone here unless it's a private conversation, all threads posted can be useful to others so check in occasionally (or several times a day like many of us do, you might want a hot drink and sleeping bag handy once you're hooked! Hilarious! ). We are a friendly bunch. Smiling
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Dec 16, 2011 9:49 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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It is not invasive for me in the Pacific Northwest. : )
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Dec 16, 2011 10:07 AM CST
Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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Not invasive for me neither!
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Dec 17, 2011 7:57 AM CST
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@JRsbugs
I didn't expect forum members to email me directly, but a "forum" often sends you a notification mail when someone has replied to your thread. Anyway, I'll get my self a sleeping bag :-)

If it's not invasive in the UK, I doubt it will be just on this side of the North Sea... Thanks again!

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