JuliaNY said:hmmmm, maybe just a little peek.

You know you can't wait til after the Holidays are over!

Finally got mine yesterday -- and now I'm reading, I'm reading... and oohing and aahing!

Lucky you... now I have to wait until Tuesday to see if it comes!~j

Got mine today!!!!!

Got mine yesterday, now to find time to read it.

I didn't get mine

James Hall got his on Tuesday so I don't know why mine hasn't gotten here yet

I'm planning on reading it over my long 3 day weekend.

I have read and reread the article on Genetics and the one about forms. Boy I can tell now I will never figure out how to register a cristate/scuplted/feathered/pppptpttttttrrrglp.

Great Great articles and the one about Northern bloom in one year was so good to. I think I will go read it all over again.

Yes Stephanie, I had to read those two twice. I'm quite sure I'll never get the Genetics one, but the Form one is pretty clear to me. That is, if I can keep the journal with me to verify until I get used to it. Where I would be get confused it with the cristate and the little extras growing out that look like doubles but really are attached to the petals and aren't doubles. I still love this form, so I was really impressed with the article. They sure did put out a good journal this time.

I'm glad you all have gotten yours. I got mine so long ago that I don't remember when. I think I'll scan back through it again.

Blessings, Mona

I have read the article on the new forms and found it pretty confusing, but interesting because of the seedling I have. The AHS now has a CD on this in PowerPoint and it may go into a little more detail. It's free right now because these forms will be added to the shows, the judges and everyone connected with a show will have to be able to recognize these flowers. I do not have a way to view the CD because I do not have a laptop to hook to my projector, so maby Michele could order a CD for the Pensacola club and we could do a short program on this subject in the future.

I thought the genetics one was well written, It gave me some good information - mainly that in the long run, there are so many factors involved in the genetics, that the percentage difference that is contributed by the pod or pollen parent for specific traits is almost equal. In this article the discussion centered on scape height & flower size.

Actually, if one is too confused, the first part of the article talks about the genetic components - yes, confusing.The second part goes into the whys & hows of outside factors influencing genetic differences & how scientists try to decrease those outside factors.

The third part was the learning part for me - sections 1 & 2 were just background.

The author analyzed the AHS registration diploid database and ran statistical programs. What he determined is that both the pod & pollen parent influenced the flower size and scape height equally. He gave an example of a 4 inch flower crossed with a 6 inch flower. if 4 x 6 - the average seedling flower size was 5.11 inches. if 6 x 4 - the average seedling flower size was 5.09 inches - not statistically different.

Apparently these differences can rarely be determine with qualitative traits such as flower color - because that trait can't be measured.

I didn't understand the first couple of genetics articles, but this one I did. Now I am going to have to reread those previous articles. ~Jan

I am pretty familiar with the new forms. If anyone has questions, if I can't answer them I know the folks who can.

I plan on reading that article this weekend, when I can sit and absorb it, and reread it a dozen times! ~Jan

I haven't read it yet either. I guess I better, although I don't think I will have to worry about the cristates because I mainly hybridize for diploid ufo's and spiders. I don't think that trait is very common in them.

Fred, I did order it. However, they send a download link if you don't request a CD so you could download it to your computer and then save it to a flashdrive.

Still haven't gotten my journal. I will just have to borrow James' to read this weekend if mine doesn't come soon.

Hi Fred & Everyone,
I'd be happy to answer any questions you or anyone else has about the article on Sculpted forms. I have many images to help with explainations. The Sculpted form PowerPoint program can be downloaded free and viewed on any computer that has the PowerPoint program installed - you do not need a projector. Just go to the media library and follow the instructions for ordering and you will receive an email with the link to go to for the download. I tried this with the free program offered last month of the AHS Photography contest finalists (Great eye candy!) prior to sending in the Sculpted form one and found the process extremely easy. If anyone has questions on the PowerPoint, before showing to a club for instance, I'd be happy to answer them too.

Char!

Thanks again for all your help with the new forms!

I am going to download the program so I can study it to try and help Michele do a club program on this subject. There are a few members in the club that are not members of AHS and have no idea of whats happening in daylilies today.
Char I am really glad that your here to help us with things like this. There has been a discussion on http://www.mydaylilies.com/day...
about my own flower I have referred them to the AHS site to read what it says about Cristate, but I seem to be getting nowhere because I know so little about it myself. I would like for you to look at my photo and tell me what form this it really is if you can.

After downloading and viewing the program I think the above flower is a Sculpted Cristate.