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Name: Janice
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sandnsea2
Dec 30, 2011 12:17 PM CST
What characteristics would you like defined for Tulips?

For starters,

A field for Division. This could be a drop down box containing the 15 divisions to choose from.

Petals (single/double/fringed) again in drop down box.

Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Dec 30, 2011 12:51 PM CST
There's a good list on this site for divisions....

http://www.thetulipgallery.com/view/609/search/Carmine+Red

Other fields..

Colour
Height
early/mid/late season
single/double
scent?
hardiness?
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Dec 30, 2011 12:51 PM CST

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What are the divisions that should be listed?
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Dec 30, 2011 12:52 PM CST
Lol, look at the link I posted Dave, we cross posted.
Name: Janice
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sandnsea2
Dec 30, 2011 1:00 PM CST
Here are the Divisions
Single Early
Double Early
Triumph
Darwin
Single Late
Lily-flowered
Fringed
Viridiflora
Parrot
Double Late
Kaufmanniana
Fosteriana
Greigii
Species
Misc
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Dec 30, 2011 1:06 PM CST

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Division with those options has been added to Tulips!
Name: Janice
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sandnsea2
Dec 30, 2011 1:10 PM CST
Oh thanks, Dave!!! Hurray! Hurray!
Name: Janice
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sandnsea2
Jan 1, 2012 1:46 PM CST
Dave,
May the following additions be made to the Tulip Divisions, as they are referred to in this way in much of the literature, I found.


Div. 1: Single Early
Div. 2: Double Early
Div. 3: Triumph
Div. 4: Darwin hybrid
Div. 5: Single Late
Div. 6: Lily-flowered
Div. 7: Fringed (Crispa)
Div. 8: Viridiflora
Div. 9: Rembrandt
Div. 10: Parrot
Div. 11: Double Late
Div. 12: Kaufmanniana
Div. 13: Fosteriana (Emperor)
Div. 14: Greigii
Div. 15: Misc. & Species (Botanical)
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Jan 1, 2012 1:49 PM CST

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I'll make this change one day this week.
Name: Janice
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sandnsea2
Jan 1, 2012 1:51 PM CST
I tip my hat to you. Thank you, Dave!
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Jan 3, 2012 9:49 AM CST

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I've made this change.
Name: Janice
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sandnsea2
Jan 3, 2012 9:49 AM CST
I tip my hat to you. Thanks, Dave!
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Jan 3, 2012 10:08 AM CST

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I tip my hat to you.
Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
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sandnsea2
Jan 6, 2012 5:28 PM CST
With the advanced search for tulips I see the Divisions are there.

What do we need in order to be able to search by Division and color?
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Jan 6, 2012 5:35 PM CST
Give me a little time and I'll see what I can find, we can brainstorm a few ideas. Hilarious!
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Jan 6, 2012 6:56 PM CST

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Being able to search by Primary Details (which is where the bloom color lives) is something that is still in the works.
Name: Janice
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sandnsea2
Jan 6, 2012 7:13 PM CST
Thanks, Dave Smiling
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Jan 6, 2012 8:02 PM CST
Types of tulip to fit into flowering seasons, how can this be done?


Early flowering: Single Early Tulips, Double Early Tulips, Greigii Tulips, Kaufmanniana Tulips, Fosteriana Tulips, Species Tulips
Mid-season flowering: Darwin Hybrid Tulips, Triumph Tulips, Parrot Tulips
Late season flowering: Single Late Tulips, Double Late Tulips, Viridiflora Tulips, Lily-flowering Tulips, Fringed Tulips, Rembrandt Tulips


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip

Country of origin?

This site gives all the groups with notes on hardiness and colours found in each group.. they also give uses for each group, such as cut flowers, beds, borders, rock gardens, containers, indoor forcing. Typical height for each group is given, that is something which you can't chose say for a 6" high tulip for a group with only tall tulips. Could the height be somehow linked to each group as standard?

http://www.theplantexpert.com/springbulbs/TulipIntro.html

On Wiki a 16th category was mentioned for multi-flowering tulips, although it's not an official category it is used on the above site and may be useful.

Div. 1: Single Early 8-20"
Div. 2: Double Early 8-16"
Div. 3: Triumph 8-26"
Div. 4: Darwin hybrid 12 - 34"
Div. 5: Single Late 9 - 32"
Div. 6: Lily-flowered 9 - 32"
Div. 7: Fringed (Crispa) 8 - 30"
Div. 8: Viridiflora 10 to 30"
Div. 9: Rembrandt (variable)
Div. 10: Parrot 12 - 28"
Div. 11: Double Late 12 - 24"
Div. 12: Kaufmanniana 4 - 12"
Div. 13: Fosteriana (Emperor) 10 - 20"
Div. 14: Greigii 6 - 16"
Div. 15: Misc. & Species (Botanical) 2-14"

HARDINESS ZONES

Colour might be difficult as tulips don't have a corolla like daffodils, maybe a drop list for 'base colour' with another drop list for 'additional colours'? I have gone through and picked out all the colour examples just taking mostly the base colours, there's a lot! That's tulips for you! Hilarious! Maybe best to have a long single drop box with all colours and multiple selection?

Colours: Red, dark red, cherry red, crimson, scarlet red, vermillion red, blood red, raspberry, rose, light rose, dark rose, rosy pink, pink, deep pink, magenta pink, cherry pink, lilac pink, fuchsia, fuchsia pink, cream, white, ivory white, pale yellow, lemon yellow, yellow, golden yellow, bright yellow, butter yellow, orange, deep orange, reddish-orange, sherbet-orange, apricot, peach, purple-black, blue, purple, dark purple, mauve, mauve-purple, violet, violet purple, fuchsia purple, dark maroon, burgundy, green, bronze, dark red-brown

If searching for colour is still in the works Dave, I guess that means it won't be happening yet but it's good to be prepared.

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Name: Janice
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sandnsea2
Jan 7, 2012 6:42 PM CST
Dave, can a field be added for Awards?
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Jan 7, 2012 6:48 PM CST

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Sure can. We can add whatever we want. We can do text fields, checkbox opportunities, or select pulldowns.

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