Time to Winter Sow Your Seeds

By valleylynn
January 13, 2012

Have you tried winter sowing vegetable and ornamental plant seeds? If not, give it a try this winter. Many seeds, including tomato seeds and your favorite perennial seeds, do unbelievably well using this method.

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Jan 13, 2012 6:46 AM CST
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Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cut Flowers Winter Sowing Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Echinacea
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Great job on both explanation and pictures to clarify the method. Thumbs up

This is my 7th year to wintersow, and I have filled my garden beds with wintersown flowers in that time. Though I'm not much of a veggie grower, I do wintersow some tomatoes each year, too. Growing from seeds not only saves money, it opens up a whole new world of plants to us that are unavailable at local garden centers. While I still start a few select heat-loving plants inside under lights, the vast majority of plants in my yard have been wintersown.

Like most people I too was a skeptic when I came upon this method on another garden website. I was encouraged by folks there, including Trudi Davidoff, and coached along. I was amazed at the results, and I continue to be thrilled when those seeds *pop* in spring. Those seeds that sprout and grow so naturally are so much more rewarding than those that I coax inside with fluorescent lights, heat mats, and tlc.

Karen
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Jan 13, 2012 9:09 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Hurray! Karen, you were were one of the people that practically held my hand through my first time of winter sowing. I so appreciate all the help and encouragement you gave me. I remember fretting over my jugs sitting out in the freezing weather, covered in snow at time and other times just plain, cold rain. I kept thinking there is now way this is going to work.
Wish you could have seen the look on my face when I peaked through the pour spout of a jug a saw little seeds coming to life. Lovey dubby
This is only my third year, but I no longer worry and fret over my winter sow jugs sitting out in winter weather.
I'll be planting mine in about another week or two.

Can you give us a link to Trudi's site?
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Jan 13, 2012 9:30 AM CST
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Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cut Flowers Winter Sowing Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Echinacea
Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Ohio Region: United States of America Butterflies Hummingbirder Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Trudi's wintersowing site is
http://wintersown.org/

I think we're all doubtful at first, Lynn. But confidence comes fast with that first year of success. People use all types of recycled containers to wintersow, but gallon milk jugs remain my favorite. Sometimes I use some half gallon ones, or 2 liter pop bottles, but mostly gallon milk jugs.

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Jan 13, 2012 9:43 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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What a wonderful site, all those seeds, all snug in their winter beds. Lovey dubby

Thank you for the link. : )
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Jan 13, 2012 10:18 AM CST
Name: Christine
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Terrific article, Lynn!

It is close to the time when I will begin winter-sowing! It is really sow easy!! LOL and you don't have to worry about soil mildew or problems with seeds damping off, which too often occurs when starting seeds indoors!!
May your life be like a wildflower, growing freely in the beauty and joy of each day --Native American Proverb

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Jan 13, 2012 11:28 AM CST
Name: Julia
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That helps! Thanks Lynn. Now to find jugs, have to call family to save.
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Jan 13, 2012 12:03 PM CST
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Yes, you really did a nice job and provided good pictures!
I'm trying this for the first time this year - haven't set them out yet, but HAVE gathered up some jugs.

Yesterday, I was washing some store bought grape tomatoes and wondered if the perforated clam shell container they came in would be too shallow. It has a solid top, a solid bottom, with perforations around the perimeter on top and bottom. It's only about 4" tall and 6" square. Too short?
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Jan 13, 2012 12:19 PM CST
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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good job girl!!!.. always good to have a refresher!!
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Jan 13, 2012 12:27 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cut Flowers Winter Sowing Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Echinacea
Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Ohio Region: United States of America Butterflies Hummingbirder Celebrating Gardening: 2015
crittergarden, I tried those containers but didn't like them much. They are pretty shallow and allow no head room for seedlings. Also, all those perforations all over the place cause them to dry out a lot. Some people do use them, but I don't any more.

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Jan 13, 2012 12:30 PM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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Nice tutorial, Lynn. Thumbs up
I garden for the pollinators.
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Jan 13, 2012 4:18 PM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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OK, you've talked me into trying it. I have a bunch of milk jugs, now just have to decide what to plant!! Hurray!
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Jan 13, 2012 9:11 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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crittergarden said:
Yesterday, I was washing some store bought grape tomatoes and wondered if the perforated clam shell container they came in would be too shallow. It has a solid top, a solid bottom, with perforations around the perimeter on top and bottom. It's only about 4" tall and 6" square. Too short?

I agree I agree with Karen about the size of clam shells being to shallow.

It will be so much fun to see what each of us ends up winter sowing. I will take photos of my WS jugs as soon as I get them planted.

Chris, I'm going to try some of the Sempervivum and heuffelii seeds I harvest this last fall. It will be fun to see what I get from them. Wonder if the two cross pollinated?

Tee, have you ever tried winter sowing?

What are you sowing Allison?
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Jan 13, 2012 9:16 PM CST
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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I have lots of zinnias (thanks Karen).. trying to decide if I am going to start my four o'clocks inside or out .. nasturtium.. think I have some canna seeds.. oooohhhh quite a few that I can't think of right now ... but I have tons of old seed packs might just throw whatever out there and see what they do.. if anything.. time to thin the overload up this year.. but I have a gallon ziplock 1/2 full of stuff to WS.. not even sure how old some are.. but they are going out *Blush*
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Jan 13, 2012 9:21 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Hurray! Fun, exciting and oh so much to look forward to Allison, love your list. Thumbs up

I will definitely be doing the Zinnias and Nasturtiums. I love to plant plenty of the nasturtiums so I can have them for salads and sandwiches. I love their peppery taste. Makes my mouth water just thinking about them.
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Jan 13, 2012 9:28 PM CST
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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I am going to try growing the nasties in the ground.. I have not had luck in containers.. think I water more than they like.. should have direct sowed them.. oh well too late.. but I have to get out my Penstemon virgatus Blue Buckle right away.. not sure if they are a three month cold or not
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Jan 13, 2012 9:34 PM CST
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Forum moderator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
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the one site I looked at said at least 30 days.. all good
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Jan 13, 2012 10:55 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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Sounds like your good to go on that one. Do you have a photo of Penstemon virgatus Blue Buckle?

I've done the nasturtiums before and they did well with winter sowing.
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Jan 14, 2012 2:24 AM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
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Lynn, will be fun to see what your Sempervivum and heuffelii will look like!
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Jan 14, 2012 2:45 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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Mostly cold frame sowing, Lynn, but much the same principle. Have to watch the moisture a bit closer with that, I suspect. People where I hail from also use their basement window wells for the same type of thing. Cover them with plastic sheeting during the winter. It's like a mini-greenhouse. If things there need water, they can be accessed from inside the basement.


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I garden for the pollinators.
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Jan 14, 2012 5:44 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Yes, cold frames would be another great way to start seeds. : )

What I like about the milk jugs is not having to monitor them for moisture content. At least not until the warmer weather arrives and there are isn't any rain to keep them watered. Usually by then they are ready to plant out anyway. If there is still danger of frost I use the top half of the jug to cover the individual plants (kind of like a miniature green house. You just have to remember to remove them if the weather gets to hot during the day.

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