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Jan 20, 2012 8:25 PM CST
Name: stephanie king
cut bank, MT z 3a-4b
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David and Michelle thanks for all that info. I think I will leave the conversions to someone else as weather is not right for it here and I would only kill 99.99999 of them./
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Jan 20, 2012 8:36 PM CST
Name: Mona
Guntown, Ms (Zone 7b)
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If temps and humidity play such a big role, then this old woman will not be playing chemist!! I'll enjoy the efforts of the coversion group and keep my "pollen dabber" status only. Ya'll have fun now, you hear!!! Blessings, Mona
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Jan 21, 2012 6:08 AM CST
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Name: Fred Manning
Lillian Alabama

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Good to see David and Doris here, two of the nicest people in the daylily world. I know of only one other person that does the injection conversions, he has killed a lot less of them but hasn't done it long enough to see if any are converted. Here is a photo to show the difference when I was converted. Not all will be this extreme, you will notice not all the segments are on the converted one and they are much wider. This bloom is what made me think I had at least a partial conversion when I saw it. When the other fan bloomed it look very similar and both turned out to be full conversions. Another thing that was happening with the tet, with those wide pedals it would start to open the evening before, so I would bring the bud inside to let it open to keep the pollen dry. I did set a few seed with it and will see them bloom this season.
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Jan 21, 2012 10:33 AM CST
Name: stephanie king
cut bank, MT z 3a-4b
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Fred that is quit a difference. I see a more intense green in the throat, more curling in the sepal and quilling in the petals. Quit a change and a nice one to boot.
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Jan 21, 2012 6:30 PM CST
Name: Doris&David Bishop
Cartersville, Ga. (Zone 7b)
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Quite a difference! We are glad that you finally got converted. Thank you for the kind words, Fred.

Question...When someone says that you can look under the microscope to tell if a conversion has taken, what are you looking at? Pollen???

Doris
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Jan 21, 2012 7:13 PM CST
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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Your conversion is fantastic, Fred!
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Jan 21, 2012 8:04 PM CST
Name: Michele
Cantonment, FL zone 8b
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Hey Doris, yes you are looking at the size and shape of the pollen. The tet conversion pollen will be larger than the dip pollen and it should be a perfect football shape from what I understand.
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Jan 21, 2012 8:52 PM CST
Name: Doris&David Bishop
Cartersville, Ga. (Zone 7b)
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Thanks, Michele. Interesting! I would like to see the difference in the two pollens. Next time we go to Bill Waldrop's when the daylilies are blooming, I will ask him to show us on his microscope. Just for the heck of it I would like to check our tet. conversions to see if they are all still converted.
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Jan 22, 2012 6:53 AM CST
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Name: Fred Manning
Lillian Alabama

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If you want him to check some that may not be blooming on the day you visit, just freeze some pollen and take it with you, I had the pollen Larry checked frozen since last summer. The microscope they use has a scale to measure the pollen. I looked at it but had no idea what I was looking at.
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Jan 22, 2012 7:03 AM CST
Name: Doris&David Bishop
Cartersville, Ga. (Zone 7b)
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We'll do that. Thanks, Fred.
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Jan 22, 2012 8:28 AM CST
Name: Lisa Klette
Dayton, KY (Zone 6a)
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Congrats Fred! Hurray!
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Jan 26, 2012 8:43 AM CST
Name: Jan
Hustisford, WI
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I'm impressed!

Well done you convert you! ~Jan
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Jan 26, 2012 3:26 PM CST
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Name: Fred Manning
Lillian Alabama

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Thanks guys, I have several seedlings from it and-
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Jan 27, 2012 9:10 PM CST
Name: shirlee
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Fred, congrats on the conversion. Yeah, I can imagine
the thrill of that, especially after a long wait.

Your first post was so funny and cute. Made me chuckle.
Can tell you are in a very happy mood since you are now
converted.
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Feb 6, 2012 9:14 AM CST
Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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Good work! Are you in southern Alabama, Fred. I need to mapquest it. How early will you be getting blooms?

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Jul 22, 2017 8:01 PM CST
Name: Dnd
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Casshigh said:Thanks, Michele. Interesting! I would like to see the difference in the two pollens. Next time we go to Bill Waldrop's when the daylilies are blooming, I will ask him to show us on his microscope. Just for the heck of it I would like to check our tet. conversions to see if they are all still converted.


Even a relatively inexpensive microscope may allow you to compare pollen. I purchased a microscope for somewhere in the area of $75-$100,I think, and I was trying to deduce if one of my NOIDS was a dip or TET. I put a few grains of a known dip on one part of the slide, a few grains of a known TET on the other, and the NOID pollen in the middle. It's a little tricky, but by comparing, I figured out the NoID was a dip!... With what was essentially a kid's microscope!
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