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Jan 24, 2012 6:30 AM CST
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Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b, and F (Zone 9b)
I'm always on my way out the door..
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I have never tried germinating these. Have you?

I'm thinking I may be getting off to a late start on these, so I'm wondering if there's anyone here who can tell me if I can skimp a bit on time frames.

The instructions I've found are -

>Sow seeds just below moist soil surface at 70F for 1 month. Move to 30F for 1 month, then bring back to 50F.

I do have a plentiful amount of seed, so I'm willing and ready to try several approaches, if necessary.
I'd eventually like to have quite a few of these for our stream-side garden, but I'm finding it a bit tough to find the amount of already started plants needed for this large of a space.
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Jan 24, 2012 6:47 AM CST
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Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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I have not.. hopefully someone has
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Jan 24, 2012 12:22 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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I'd give it a try Chelle. I understand they are pretty easy to start from seed.
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Jan 24, 2012 12:45 PM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cut Flowers Winter Sowing Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Echinacea
Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Ohio Region: United States of America Butterflies Hummingbirder Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I've not tried them, either.

But your description: "Sow seeds just below moist soil surface at 70F for 1 month. Move to 30F for 1 month, then bring back to 50F." makes them sound to me like a good choice for wintersowing.

Most seeds, when wintersown, don't require the exact recommended conditions you read which are always for indoor-grown stuff. Rather, the fluctuations in temp that they get naturally outside, combined with alternating freeze-thaw cycles and bombardment with rain and snow, just seem to make most seeds overcome their dormancy. Since you said your seeds are plentiful, I think it's worth a try for at least a portion of them.

But then, admittedly, I do tend toward wintersowing for anything that even sounds persnickety like that. Hilarious! Usually it works out fine. Not always, but usually.

Karen
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Jan 24, 2012 1:23 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b, and F (Zone 9b)
I'm always on my way out the door..
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Forum moderator Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Dog Lover Cottage Gardener
Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Organic Gardener Keeps Horses Hummingbirder Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle
I'm definitely going to try winter sowing these....it seems to me too, that these would be prime candidates! Smiling

For now though, just until I'm ready to start winter sowing, I'm trying some in a baggie as well. Just got them started today. I soaked them in hot water (with a bit of peroxide) for a few hours while I was potting up some semps, then put them in a damp coffee filter and baggie and set them on the water heater with a light on them....we'll see if this works, and how long it takes if it does. Big Grin

Thanks for the encouragement!

I'm really looking forward to the results!
Cottage Gardening

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Jan 24, 2012 2:22 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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Keep us posted!
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Jan 24, 2012 2:29 PM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cut Flowers Winter Sowing Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Echinacea
Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Ohio Region: United States of America Butterflies Hummingbirder Celebrating Gardening: 2015
It's always good to cover all bases, chelle!

Karen
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Jan 24, 2012 2:42 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b, and F (Zone 9b)
I'm always on my way out the door..
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Forum moderator Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Dog Lover Cottage Gardener
Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Organic Gardener Keeps Horses Hummingbirder Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle
kqcrna said:It's always good to cover all bases, chelle!

Karen


Yep. Just like I covered all the bases with agastache seed last year. Rolling on the floor laughing I started 4 different varieties....

.....and ended up with nearly 72 each of two, 14 or 15 of another, and an unknown multitude of the fourth! Hilarious! Needless to say, I didn't really need quite that many!

>>Will post as soon as I see something! Big Grin
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Jan 24, 2012 4:55 PM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cut Flowers Winter Sowing Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Echinacea
Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Ohio Region: United States of America Butterflies Hummingbirder Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I'm confident that they'll do great, Chelle.

Karen
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Jan 24, 2012 5:59 PM CST
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Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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wow that is a lot of plants!!!... good for you though!!!
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Jan 29, 2012 10:10 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b, and F (Zone 9b)
I'm always on my way out the door..
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Forum moderator Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Dog Lover Cottage Gardener
Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Organic Gardener Keeps Horses Hummingbirder Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle
Thanks, Allison. I wanted those agastache to germinate for me in the worst way! Hilarious! ...and, boy did they ever!



>It's so interesting to watch these iris seeds progress!

Today I noticed that each little seed is flaking off teeny bits of its seed coat. Each seed has a ring of tiny dark specks around it - easily seen on the bright white of the coffee filter.

Tomorrow when I have them open again for a look-see and some fresh air I'll see if I can get a good photo. Smiling
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Jan 29, 2012 1:41 PM CST
Moderator
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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always fun
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Feb 9, 2012 5:37 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b, and F (Zone 9b)
I'm always on my way out the door..
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Forum moderator Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Dog Lover Cottage Gardener
Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Organic Gardener Keeps Horses Hummingbirder Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle
No sprouts on these guys after three weeks of steady warmth and light, so I believe I'll start a cold treatment period today on this batch of seeds. I'll probably just WS them outdoors. Smiling Think I should give them the extra week, or just go for it now?
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Feb 9, 2012 5:56 AM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cut Flowers Winter Sowing Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Echinacea
Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Ohio Region: United States of America Butterflies Hummingbirder Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Chelle, if you want them to get a cold period, we're supposed to get the coldest winter week yet this year, so this might be your best bet for cold. Smiling I assume your weather is similar.

Karen
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Feb 9, 2012 6:29 AM CST
Moderator
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Forum moderator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
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as of yesterday I know this is the coldest so far here.. supposed to warm up after the weekend again
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Feb 9, 2012 7:00 AM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cut Flowers Winter Sowing Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Echinacea
Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Ohio Region: United States of America Butterflies Hummingbirder Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Yes, we're supposed to warm up next week too, after a frigid weekend with lows at night in the upper teens. We haven't had such cold temps yet this winter.

Karen
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Feb 9, 2012 9:16 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b, and F (Zone 9b)
I'm always on my way out the door..
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Forum moderator Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Dog Lover Cottage Gardener
Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Organic Gardener Keeps Horses Hummingbirder Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle
Good reasoning. I'll get them out today.

Thanks for the input! Thumbs up
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Mar 21, 2012 5:18 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b, and F (Zone 9b)
I'm always on my way out the door..
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Forum moderator Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Dog Lover Cottage Gardener
Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Organic Gardener Keeps Horses Hummingbirder Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle
I think I might have the first sprout! Hurray!

There's something green showing in that container at any rate. Big Grin
Cottage Gardening

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Mar 21, 2012 8:25 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b, and F (Zone 9b)
I'm always on my way out the door..
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Forum moderator Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Dog Lover Cottage Gardener
Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Organic Gardener Keeps Horses Hummingbirder Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle
It's definite. There are a bunch of them up this morning! Hurray! I'm doing the happy dance!
Cottage Gardening

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Mar 21, 2012 1:54 PM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cut Flowers Winter Sowing Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Echinacea
Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Ohio Region: United States of America Butterflies Hummingbirder Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Congrats, chelle.

Karen

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