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May 7, 2012 7:44 PM CST
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Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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good point... think the paper trays are compost now... thanks
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May 26, 2012 1:55 PM CST
Name: Pippi21
Silver Spring, Maryland 20906 (Zone 7a)
Alison, I see you are using disposable lasagna pans for planting. Did you poke holes in the bottom of them? What catches any water that might run out? Do you use mini blind slats for your markers, then use your label maker? Yours looks so neat and tidy. I assume you are doing these "under lights?" Do you use any lids on top of the pans to keep the moisture in?
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May 26, 2012 7:42 PM CST
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Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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I am brave and don't put holes in them.. water gently.. but do use water gels in the bottom to collect any excess water.. yes I use mini blinds & the ones from novesel.. on the mini blinds I like a paint pen.. it doesn't wash off.. and do use a brother p-touch for the novesel ones because I don't like the way the paint pen holds to those.. any perennials now I use labels.. and annuals mini blinds... cheaper that way.. but the mini blinds disappear quick in the garden.. lots and lots of lights inside.. and I did find loaf pans with lids at the super market.. and keep using the same lids over and over with dollar store pans.. I did try to put the pans in a flat with the cover.. it didn't work.. don't try it.. dried out very fast
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Oct 6, 2012 1:18 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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Hello everyone.
I use coconut coir in my containers but not like some of you have done. I live in an arid area where moisture retention in containers and soil is a problem. In a twelve inch pot, i only add a handful of coir to the soil which has helped me with watering less. As the name coconut says, it grows next to the sea and yes its salt content is high with no nutritional value at all for plants but to amend soil and for water retention its properties are very good and that much salt does no harm. When i want more moisture, i might add ten to twelve gel beads but planting in pure coir has been a total failure at least for me. Even with humidity at 15% and ambient temperature at 46 c i have found coir to moist/soggy leading to root rot.
My climate is harsh and hot but why are some of you experimenting with coir when you are in a temperate or cooler zone? If you want to make the soil more porous and airy, just add a bit of coir its expansion on water absorption and contraction on drying plus the fibers will do the trick.
Regards,
Masud.
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Oct 6, 2012 6:48 PM CST
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Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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the coir I have was just about free.. so I just add perlite to it and use it just like that in my containers.. and add slow release fert. to the mix.. and polymer gels as well
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Oct 7, 2012 5:05 AM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cut Flowers Winter Sowing Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Echinacea
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Thanks for the input, KAMasud.

While I've never been a big fan of Miracle Grow potting soil, I tried some of their "moisture control" potting mix this summer in a few big pots this summer. It contains coir, though I don't know what percentage. Even in the unprecedented heat and drought that we had in the midwest those containers did great. This was shortly after planting in April.
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So I agree, some coir in a mix can help a lot in moisture retention. I don't know what percentage is necessary though.

In the past I had tried pure coir for seed starting and I failed miserably. Hilarious!

Karen
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Oct 7, 2012 5:16 AM CST
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Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
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have to make sure drainage is good... all these were planted with coir, perlite and slow release
June 12
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last week
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edit - had the photos switched.. oops.. LOL
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Oct 7, 2012 5:22 AM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cut Flowers Winter Sowing Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Echinacea
Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Ohio Region: United States of America Butterflies Hummingbirder Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Beautiful as always, Allison. You do have a way with coir that I lack.

Karen
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Oct 7, 2012 5:37 AM CST
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Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Forum moderator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Region: New Jersey Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 1
I don't think this coir has any salt in it.. or not as much.. I don't smell any sea like fragrance when I expand it.. and most of the time I use hot water.. since it soaks in quicker.. you would think steamy it would have that sort of a smell.. but it doesn't

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