Plant Database forum: Can Thorns be added for a checklist to the db

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Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Jan 30, 2012 7:53 PM CST
Dave,

Can you add thorns to the db?

Thanks!
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zuzu
Jan 30, 2012 11:17 PM CST

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Can't you just add a comment about thorns? I'd hate to go back through 5,000+ roses to add thorns to them. It can't be done on a blanket basis because some roses don't have thorns.
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Feb 1, 2012 8:11 AM CST
I never knew some roses don't have thorns. Thanks Zuzu for teaching me something I didn't know I didn't know.
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Feb 1, 2012 1:00 PM CST

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There are quite a few, Ann, and I've noted "Thornless" or "Almost thornless" on the "Comments" line of each of them in the rose database, so you should be able to run a search for them. You can also ask for recommendations of thornless roses in the Rose Forum. They're indispensable for areas where children and other sensitive individuals will be spending a lot of time in the garden.
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Feb 1, 2012 1:52 PM CST
I tip my hat to you. Thanks again Zuzu.
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Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Feb 16, 2012 6:27 PM CST
Dave,

Could you implement on the database, boxes to check for thorns for any new ones that the details are checked?

Thanks!

Marilyn

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dave
Feb 17, 2012 9:46 AM CST

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You mean for roses? I can, if Zuzu wants it.
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flaflwrgrl
Feb 17, 2012 10:11 AM CST
How about for all plants Dave. It seems it would be good info. to know.
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Feb 17, 2012 10:15 AM CST

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Okay, I've added Thorned as an option under Miscellaneous.
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Feb 17, 2012 10:54 AM CST
Thank you! Dave is the greatest!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
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~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Feb 17, 2012 11:06 AM CST

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I tip my hat to you.
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Feb 17, 2012 11:56 AM CST
Dave, can you make all the Bougainvillea marked as thorned? I am not 100% positive someone hasn't come up with a variety without thorns but I have never seen nor heard of one without thorns.
If someone comes up with a variety which does not have thorns then when they enter the data they can edit the thorns out.
What do you think?
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JRsbugs
Feb 17, 2012 12:32 PM CST
Bougainvillea arborea is a thornless and fragrant species


http://toptropicals.com/cgi-bin/garden_catalog/cat.cgi?uid=b...

Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Feb 17, 2012 12:34 PM CST
Leave it to the Super Sleuth to know such! I'm glad Janet ~~~ is that the only one? If so, then we can just go change that one only.

Good sleuthing Janet. Thumbs up
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~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Feb 17, 2012 12:36 PM CST
It may not be totally thornless, but near enough not to call it thorned.

Most bougainvilleas have spiny thorns, but some of the newer varieties are nearly thornless or have such insignificant thorns that they are not a hazard.


http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060716/news_1hs16b...
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Feb 17, 2012 1:56 PM CST

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I marked the parent plant for Bougainvillea as thorned, so that attribute was copied down to the matching child plants.
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Feb 17, 2012 2:22 PM CST
Thanks Dave.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Marilyn
Northern KY (Zone 6a)
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Marilyn
Feb 17, 2012 6:04 PM CST
flaflwrgrl said:How about for all plants Dave. It seems it would be good info. to know.


That's what I meant (for all plants).

Thanks Dave! Hurray! I tip my hat to you. Thumbs up

Welcome to the Agastache and Salvias Forum!

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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Feb 17, 2012 6:05 PM CST

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Thumbs up
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Feb 17, 2012 6:20 PM CST

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So now I have a dilemma: There are more than 5,000 rose entries. A few hundred of these have no thorns. Should I ask Dave to enter the "thorned" option for all of them and then find those few hundred and remove the checkmark, or should I just ignore the field and assume that people know most roses have thorns?

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