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Jan 30, 2012 7:53 PM CST
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Name: Marilyn
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Dave,

Can you add thorns to the db?

Thanks!
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Jan 30, 2012 11:17 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
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Can't you just add a comment about thorns? I'd hate to go back through 5,000+ roses to add thorns to them. It can't be done on a blanket basis because some roses don't have thorns.
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Feb 1, 2012 8:11 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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I never knew some roses don't have thorns. Thanks Zuzu for teaching me something I didn't know I didn't know.
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Feb 1, 2012 1:00 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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There are quite a few, Ann, and I've noted "Thornless" or "Almost thornless" on the "Comments" line of each of them in the rose database, so you should be able to run a search for them. You can also ask for recommendations of thornless roses in the Rose Forum. They're indispensable for areas where children and other sensitive individuals will be spending a lot of time in the garden.
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Feb 1, 2012 1:52 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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I tip my hat to you. Thanks again Zuzu.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Feb 16, 2012 6:27 PM CST
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Name: Marilyn
Kentucky (Zone 6a)
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Dave,

Could you implement on the database, boxes to check for thorns for any new ones that the details are checked?

Thanks!

Marilyn
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Feb 17, 2012 9:46 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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You mean for roses? I can, if Zuzu wants it.
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Feb 17, 2012 10:11 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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How about for all plants Dave. It seems it would be good info. to know.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Feb 17, 2012 10:15 AM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Okay, I've added Thorned as an option under Miscellaneous.
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Feb 17, 2012 10:54 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Thank you! Dave is the greatest!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Feb 17, 2012 11:06 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
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I tip my hat to you.
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Feb 17, 2012 11:56 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Dave, can you make all the Bougainvillea marked as thorned? I am not 100% positive someone hasn't come up with a variety without thorns but I have never seen nor heard of one without thorns.
If someone comes up with a variety which does not have thorns then when they enter the data they can edit the thorns out.
What do you think?
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Feb 17, 2012 12:32 PM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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Bougainvillea arborea is a thornless and fragrant species


http://toptropicals.com/cgi-bi...
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Feb 17, 2012 12:34 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
Leave it to the Super Sleuth to know such! I'm glad Janet ~~~ is that the only one? If so, then we can just go change that one only.

Good sleuthing Janet. Thumbs up
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Feb 17, 2012 12:36 PM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
Bee Lover Plant Identifier Organic Gardener Dragonflies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
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It may not be totally thornless, but near enough not to call it thorned.

Most bougainvilleas have spiny thorns, but some of the newer varieties are nearly thornless or have such insignificant thorns that they are not a hazard.


http://www.signonsandiego.com/...
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Feb 17, 2012 1:56 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
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I marked the parent plant for Bougainvillea as thorned, so that attribute was copied down to the matching child plants.
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Feb 17, 2012 2:22 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
Thanks Dave.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Feb 17, 2012 6:04 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Marilyn
Kentucky (Zone 6a)
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Region: United States of America Rabbit Keeper Hummingbirder Salvias Charter ATP Member Birds
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flaflwrgrl said:How about for all plants Dave. It seems it would be good info. to know.


That's what I meant (for all plants).

Thanks Dave! Hurray! I tip my hat to you. Thumbs up
Welcome to the Agastache and Salvias Forum!

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Feb 17, 2012 6:05 PM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
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Feb 17, 2012 6:20 PM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages Plant Database Moderator Garden Ideas: Master Level
So now I have a dilemma: There are more than 5,000 rose entries. A few hundred of these have no thorns. Should I ask Dave to enter the "thorned" option for all of them and then find those few hundred and remove the checkmark, or should I just ignore the field and assume that people know most roses have thorns?

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