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Feb 13, 2018 9:25 PM CST
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Name: Timothy
eastern oregon (Zone 7b)
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Peonies Region: Oregon Irises Hybridizer Herbs Dahlias
Hi all
I thought it'd be interesting to get some guesses (prognostications -- : ) ) on what this outcome of this cross will look like. Magical was the pod parent and pollen parent was a seedling of mine. Lovely color and form on said seedling of mine, but wasn't satisfied with the branching or bud count. Had a poor harvest of seeding on this cross yielding only 10 or so seeds and only one survived. Small plant but hopefully this year will be its maiden bloom. Here's what im thinking ---
A range of nicely formed, well ruffled melons, apricoty pinks, light cantaloupe oranges, muted yellow blends. OR a compost candidate. Judging from Magical's somewhat complex heritage, I counting on being totally surprised. One thing im not counting on is anything introduceable from a single surviving seedling from this cross.
Love to hear your thoughts
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Feb 13, 2018 9:34 PM CST
Name: Liz
East Dover, VT (Zone 5a)
Annuals Irises Lilies Region: Northeast US Organic Gardener Peonies
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I see ruffles in your future
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Feb 13, 2018 9:45 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Timothy
eastern oregon (Zone 7b)
Bulbs Region: United States of America Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers hot summers Salvias Region: Pacific Northwest
Peonies Region: Oregon Irises Hybridizer Herbs Dahlias
... oh, and I uploaded a pict of Ivory Blush into the database since there wasn't any. That'll give you some more background on the parentage of my orange seedling.
Ivory Blush
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Feb 13, 2018 10:52 PM CST
Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Dog Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers
I think most will have orange beards and a few will have a beard like Magical. Plus as Liz said and lots of ruffles.
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Feb 14, 2018 4:25 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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I'm guessing peachy orange standards and lighter falls with a bit of darker peachy orange around the edge with some ruffling. Smiling
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Feb 14, 2018 4:02 PM CST
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
I'm a semi-retired studio potter.
Irises Hummingbirder Hellebores Organic Gardener Dog Lover Daylilies
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Out of 3 seed pods and the resulting 40 or so seeds, so far there are 19 seedlings
emerging in pots on the deck.
The crosses were

x ( 7 seedlings so far)

x (8 seedlings " )

x (just emerging - 4)

Just using what was available - no plan. No expectations. This year should be better !
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Feb 14, 2018 4:11 PM CST
Name: Liz
East Dover, VT (Zone 5a)
Annuals Irises Lilies Region: Northeast US Organic Gardener Peonies
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Very interesting crosses Jan. I'm very curious to see the results!
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Feb 14, 2018 7:00 PM CST
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
I'm a semi-retired studio potter.
Irises Hummingbirder Hellebores Organic Gardener Dog Lover Daylilies
Region: Ukraine Region: California Dahlias Garden Art Cat Lover Vegetable Grower
Well I'm ready for surprises, Liz! I made some mistakes last year. I read somewhere
that pollen could be gathered using a nice soft camel's hair brush, (how artistic!)and I had one, so I used it.
But I recently realized that even one grain of pollen is enough to fertilize the whole iris, and it also dawned on me that just shaking out the brush wasn't enough.! So, THIS year I'm using tweezers!
I have more of a breeding plan this year, too. We'll see. How are your crosses coming along?
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Feb 14, 2018 8:27 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
Irises Region: Ukraine Garden Procrastinator Bee Lover Butterflies Plant and/or Seed Trader
Region: California Cat Lover Deer Bulbs Foliage Fan Annuals
Dachsylady86 said:Very interesting crosses Jan. I'm very curious to see the results!


I agree Me too!
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
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Feb 14, 2018 8:49 PM CST
Name: Liz
East Dover, VT (Zone 5a)
Annuals Irises Lilies Region: Northeast US Organic Gardener Peonies
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janwax said:Well I'm ready for surprises, Liz! I made some mistakes last year. I read somewhere
that pollen could be gathered using a nice soft camel's hair brush, (how artistic!)and I had one, so I used it.
But I recently realized that even one grain of pollen is enough to fertilize the whole iris, and it also dawned on me that just shaking out the brush wasn't enough.! So, THIS year I'm using tweezers!
I have more of a breeding plan this year, too. We'll see. How are your crosses coming along?


Some are doing better than others. Most just have 2-3 seedlings blooming in each pot, but I have one that has 20 seedlings! It's the most odd cross, but who knows it could be spectacular.
It is X
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Feb 14, 2018 8:55 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
Irises Region: Ukraine Garden Procrastinator Bee Lover Butterflies Plant and/or Seed Trader
Region: California Cat Lover Deer Bulbs Foliage Fan Annuals
Liz ~ That does look like an interesting cross. I am curious as well.
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
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Feb 14, 2018 9:07 PM CST
Name: Liz
East Dover, VT (Zone 5a)
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It wants to be seen Evelyn, it's growing like crazy!
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Feb 15, 2018 12:22 AM CST
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
Irises Region: Ukraine Garden Procrastinator Bee Lover Butterflies Plant and/or Seed Trader
Region: California Cat Lover Deer Bulbs Foliage Fan Annuals
Did you make that cross on purpose? I can hardly wait to see them. We have to make new irises for the future generations, not like the ones that already exist.
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
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Feb 15, 2018 5:09 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
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My iris seeds are still 'staying cool' in the fridge, but I am hoping to see some seedlings from this cross

x

Hoping for lots of stripes! Crossing Fingers!
I have quite a few seeds from various Haunted Heart crosses, which I plan to cross with the best to come out of the cross above if any of them turn out well enough to use for breeding. It's a waiting game! Rolling my eyes.
Of course I talk to myself; sometimes I need expert advice!
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Feb 15, 2018 10:20 AM CST
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
I'm a semi-retired studio potter.
Irises Hummingbirder Hellebores Organic Gardener Dog Lover Daylilies
Region: Ukraine Region: California Dahlias Garden Art Cat Lover Vegetable Grower
Liz, I just planted Mysterioso last fall. And you've already used it in a cross! So interested in seeing what you get!
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Feb 15, 2018 4:38 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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You realize to get the white standards (amoenas) the trait should be coming from both sides. I work with SDB amoenas & have to try & keep the standards white.
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Feb 15, 2018 5:35 PM CST
Name: Liz
East Dover, VT (Zone 5a)
Annuals Irises Lilies Region: Northeast US Organic Gardener Peonies
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janwax said:Liz, I just planted Mysterioso last fall. And you've already used it in a cross! So interested in seeing what you get!


I'm hoping for some kind of veining pattern in the standards Crossing Fingers!
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Feb 15, 2018 6:34 PM CST
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
I'm a semi-retired studio potter.
Irises Hummingbirder Hellebores Organic Gardener Dog Lover Daylilies
Region: Ukraine Region: California Dahlias Garden Art Cat Lover Vegetable Grower
irisarian said:You realize to get the white standards (amoenas) the trait should be coming from both sides. I work with SDB amoenas & have to try & keep the standards white.


This is a bit of information that I'm filing away. Thank you so much, Lucy!
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Feb 16, 2018 4:08 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Seed Starter Winter Sowing Bee Lover Dog Lover Region: Europe
Good to know! I tip my hat to you. For this cross I'm just interested in stripes, does anyone know if there is a rule for those too? I'm all ears!
Of course I talk to myself; sometimes I need expert advice!
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Feb 16, 2018 12:18 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
Irises Region: Ukraine Garden Procrastinator Bee Lover Butterflies Plant and/or Seed Trader
Region: California Cat Lover Deer Bulbs Foliage Fan Annuals
And can you get veining on the falls as well as the standards?
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson

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