I loved Van Der Veer Park...that's where I first saw a Jackmanii clematis....still have (somewhere) a pic of my son in Van der Veer Park when he was quite young. As a matter of fact, I loved Davenport. Jer is from Davenport....
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....