Plant Database forum: Making parentage links for new daylily entries

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Anne
Feb 21, 2012 1:43 PM CST
I'm new here. When I add the parentage for a new daylily entry in the plant database, is there code I should use to make the parent names link to the parents in the plant database?

In case I'm not explaining myself too well, here's the first one that I added (with plain text parentage):
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Clin d'oeil à Carole')

Here are the parents in the plant database (they link back to their own parents in the plant database):
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Desperado Love')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Raspberry Beret')

I was hoping it would just link automatically but it looks like it didn't and I don't want to cause mods anymore work if it's something I can do.

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Calif_Sue
Feb 21, 2012 1:51 PM CST

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I am not sure why some work and others don't, I just checked the newest ones I created and on some, only part of it works.


Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Legislating Life')
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Gun Steel')

Never mind on mine, I just found that Swallowtail Kite is two words in the AHS link, I have to confirm that it's correct though.
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dave
Feb 21, 2012 2:07 PM CST

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The system is looking for the letter "x" between the cultivar names.

In the case of that first one you linked to, the "x" was actually not an "x" (even though it looked like one). It was actually a sideways cross that I guess was created Word or something? I'm guessing that instead of typing in those parent names, you may have copied and pasted it from somewhere. Whatever you copied it out of, they had it as a sideways cross instead of an X.

This is an odd issue that would only occur in that specific kind of situation. I fixed it by editing that particular plant and changing the character to a real "X".
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Anne
Feb 21, 2012 2:11 PM CST
Oh that's great. Knowing that it's supposed to be automatic, I figured out what was wrong and fixed mine. Thanks!

The problem was that I cut and paste the parentage directly from the hybridizer's website and the x they used was super tiny for some reason so I think plant database was considering it to be one long name that isn't in the database instead of ___ x ___ . Editing the x worked.

Thanks again!
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Anne
Feb 21, 2012 2:12 PM CST
Or you fixed it Dave--whichever. Thanks! That was it!
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Anne
Feb 21, 2012 3:08 PM CST
Oh, now I have another somewhat related question. Hope it's okay to ask it here too.

What is the naming convention on ATP when it comes to cultivar names that contain accents that are not part of the english language? Should the accents be dropped?

For example the daylily I added above is 'Clin d'oeil a Carole' on the AHS so that's how I added it to ATP. I believe the hybridizer is french-Canadian and on his (or her?) website lists it as 'Clin d'oeil à Carole'. The hybridizer has used 'Clin d'oeil à ___" as a naming scheme for several of his past intros. I did a search on ATP and currently there are duplicates of some of them added to the plant database--some with accents and some without:

http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=hemerocallis+clin...

Looking them up on the AHS database, I had trouble finding them at first, but they show up like this (perhaps it's just my computer but there are question marks in a few places in the names):
http://www.daylilies.org/DaylilyDB/detail.php?id=163128
http://www.daylilies.org/DaylilyDB/detail.php?id=163127
http://www.daylilies.org/DaylilyDB/detail.php?id=165646
http://www.daylilies.org/DaylilyDB/detail.php?id=163126

I noticed that this hybridizer's 2012 intros have all been added to the AHS database without accents though.

So is it safe to assume that accents should be dropped when adding cultivars like these to the ATP plant database?
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dave
Feb 21, 2012 3:25 PM CST

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Sue will correct me if I'm wrong, but in such cases like that I believe we want it as both:

Clin d'oeil à Carole

as well as:

Clin d'oeil a Carole

This is possible because you can have multiple cultivar names associated with the same plant.

By doing it this way, when people search for a cultivar, they can use either the "foreign" characters or the English characters.
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Calif_Sue
Feb 21, 2012 8:37 PM CST

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I will fix those and add both names, copying the names from their website.
If you come across anymore Anne, just either report it on this thread or you can do a proposal adding the additional spelling or correcting a spelling. The AHS has a lot of those question mark errors and Dave corrected most of them here although I still come across a few.
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eclayne
Feb 22, 2012 3:12 PM CST

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dave said:Sue will correct me if I'm wrong, but in such cases like that I believe we want it as both:

Clin d'oeil à Carole

as well as:

Clin d'oeil a Carole

This is possible because you can have multiple cultivar names associated with the same plant.

By doing it this way, when people search for a cultivar, they can use either the "foreign" characters or the English characters.


In all DB entries? I missed the earlier discussion. Now to remember where all those German names were.
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Calif_Sue
Feb 22, 2012 3:39 PM CST

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I think for the most part just typing them normal works, not always though.
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eclayne
Feb 22, 2012 3:46 PM CST

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