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Feb 21, 2012 9:37 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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Kent already posted some wonderful Neglectas over in the Amoenas thread, which prompted me to post this thread to share these beauties. And of course I'm hoping that others will post pictures of theirs too!

RAINY RIVER - My favorite neglecta!
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MYSTIQUE - My second favorite!
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ICELANDIC SEA
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STARS TURN OUT
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SNOW MELT
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I don't know if this last one is really a neglecta, but I think it's so pretty that I just had to throw it in. The first two pictures were taken in the shade in my garden and they looked really blue, and the last was taken at Mid-America and shows the true colors. So would this be considered a neglecta or a bitone?

LUXURY RUFFLES
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Kent, I'm hoping you can go over to your post in the Amoenas thread, get into Edit, and copy everything in your neglecta post to also bring it over here so we'll have them here too. Is that possible?
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Feb 21, 2012 10:17 PM CST
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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Betja,
Will you explain what a neglecta is please. I'm a lurker and learning terms. Love the pictures
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Feb 21, 2012 10:35 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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A neglecta is a bitone which has light blue Or perhaps violet standards & dark blue or violet falls. All classes have the color. Here is MTB 'Twilight Calm'.
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Feb 21, 2012 10:47 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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Thank you Lucy! And Variegetas have yellow standards, right? I'm so glad you were able to explain this. I just don't know that much about it, except I think that Neglectas are basically blue bitones and I believe Variegetas are yellow bitones/bicolors. Is that right?
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Feb 22, 2012 12:10 AM CST
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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Ok, so what would you call a 2 tone pink iris?
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Feb 22, 2012 6:40 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Betty, Once again I have to say you are a great photographer! Rainy River is one of my favorites too. I'm a bit fuzzy in identifying these, but I think these two are in that class, if not, I'm open to learning.
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Cranberry Swirl
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Made of Magic

Is a neglecta a subset of bitone? Kent Help! lol
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Feb 22, 2012 8:44 AM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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A variegata has yellow standards & red falls. It is named after the species of that name. Many MTBs originaaly came from that species so all irises of that color have the term.
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The falls look more brown, than red in this picture of my husbands iris, but it is the coloration. A bitone pink is a bitone, not a special name as it showed up in hybridizing not in the wild. Pink is a recessive color in irises. Back to neglectas---
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Feb 22, 2012 10:17 AM CST
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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Thanks. I'll keep reading your posts and sorry I have messed up this thread.
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Feb 22, 2012 10:23 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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So Lucy, would EXTROVERT be considered a variegata, or is there too much going on in the falls to be one? I really would like to learn about variegatas.

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And thank you, Tom -- that's a nice compliment. I just use my little Nikon Coolpix with the auto focus, which means I can't get good closeups, and I just sort of stand there swaying around trying to get a good shot. And I always have to take a few to get one good picture that's not out of focus...
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Feb 22, 2012 12:45 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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I would think so. The yellow underneath the beards would be a 'zone' like you get with white on the falls of an amoena. Colors in TBs are getting too intricate for me.
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Feb 22, 2012 9:34 PM CST
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Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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Betja said:

Kent, I'm hoping you can go over to your post in the Amoenas thread, get into Edit, and copy everything in your neglecta post to also bring it over here so we'll have them here too. Is that possible?



Seems to have worked?

Phantom Ship - mysterious and elegant


Fabulous One - well named


Wicked Good - don't actually grow this one yet, but did see it at Mid-America last spring
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Dinner Talk - amazingly rich colors that aren't entirely captured in pictures


Endless Waltz - a little too pastel for my taste, but lovely none the less
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Mariposa Wizard - IB, the most reliable rebloomer I have
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Over Alaska - big and imposing
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Feb 22, 2012 10:06 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
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Fantastic! Thanks so much! And by the way, I've ordered WICKED GOOD.
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Feb 22, 2012 11:49 PM CST
Name: Brad
iowa (Zone 5a)
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Fatal Attraction
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Northwest Progress

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High Class
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Phantom Ship

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Feb 23, 2012 8:41 AM CST
Moderator
Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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How could I forget High Class? That's another good one.
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Feb 23, 2012 10:18 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Birds The WITWIT Badge Garden Ideas: Level 1 Roses
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They're all so beautiful! I do love neglectas...
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Feb 23, 2012 12:42 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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Beautiful pics, all!

Springcolor, don't ever worry about messing up a thread. We're all here to learn, and I learned from your post.
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Feb 23, 2012 1:52 PM CST
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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Thanks, but what did you learn? I missed it. Shrug!

I'm going to do some looking on the internet to understand what this is all about. What would you call this sub-groups of Iris?
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Feb 23, 2012 2:24 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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It should be iris colors as they cam in all bearded classes.
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Feb 23, 2012 4:09 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Betty
Bakersfield, CA
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Birds The WITWIT Badge Garden Ideas: Level 1 Roses
Irises Daylilies Cat Lover Region: California Region: United States of America
We're learning about the color classes. We all know that bearded irises are divided by height into different classifications, but there are quite a few color classifications also. Now we have learned that neglectas are bitones in the blue and purple colors only. So anytime you see an iris that has light blue standards and deeper blue falls, it is a neglecta.
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Feb 23, 2012 7:22 PM CST
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
Hydrangeas Photo Contest Winner 2018 Garden Photography Region: Pacific Northwest Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Forum moderator
Plant Database Moderator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Sempervivums Container Gardener Foliage Fan
Yes, I learn so much here. I did find some info that helps. All the pictures are fabulous!
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