Irises forum: Neglectas!

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Name: Betty
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Betja
Feb 21, 2012 9:37 PM CST
Kent already posted some wonderful Neglectas over in the Amoenas thread, which prompted me to post this thread to share these beauties. And of course I'm hoping that others will post pictures of theirs too!

RAINY RIVER - My favorite neglecta!
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MYSTIQUE - My second favorite!
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ICELANDIC SEA
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STARS TURN OUT
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SNOW MELT
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I don't know if this last one is really a neglecta, but I think it's so pretty that I just had to throw it in. The first two pictures were taken in the shade in my garden and they looked really blue, and the last was taken at Mid-America and shows the true colors. So would this be considered a neglecta or a bitone?

LUXURY RUFFLES
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Kent, I'm hoping you can go over to your post in the Amoenas thread, get into Edit, and copy everything in your neglecta post to also bring it over here so we'll have them here too. Is that possible?

Betty
Name: Julia
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springcolor
Feb 21, 2012 10:17 PM CST
Betja,
Will you explain what a neglecta is please. I'm a lurker and learning terms. Love the pictures
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Name: Lucy
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irisarian
Feb 21, 2012 10:35 PM CST
A neglecta is a bitone which has light blue Or perhaps violet standards & dark blue or violet falls. All classes have the color. Here is MTB 'Twilight Calm'.
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Name: Betty
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Betja
Feb 21, 2012 10:47 PM CST
Thank you Lucy! And Variegetas have yellow standards, right? I'm so glad you were able to explain this. I just don't know that much about it, except I think that Neglectas are basically blue bitones and I believe Variegetas are yellow bitones/bicolors. Is that right?

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springcolor
Feb 22, 2012 12:10 AM CST
Ok, so what would you call a 2 tone pink iris?
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Name: Tom
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tveguy3
Feb 22, 2012 6:40 AM CST
Betty, Once again I have to say you are a great photographer! Rainy River is one of my favorites too. I'm a bit fuzzy in identifying these, but I think these two are in that class, if not, I'm open to learning.
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Cranberry Swirl
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Is a neglecta a subset of bitone? Kent Help! lol
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Name: Lucy
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irisarian
Feb 22, 2012 8:44 AM CST
A variegata has yellow standards & red falls. It is named after the species of that name. Many MTBs originaaly came from that species so all irises of that color have the term.
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The falls look more brown, than red in this picture of my husbands iris, but it is the coloration. A bitone pink is a bitone, not a special name as it showed up in hybridizing not in the wild. Pink is a recessive color in irises. Back to neglectas---
Name: Julia
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springcolor
Feb 22, 2012 10:17 AM CST
Thanks. I'll keep reading your posts and sorry I have messed up this thread.
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Name: Betty
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Betja
Feb 22, 2012 10:23 AM CST
So Lucy, would EXTROVERT be considered a variegata, or is there too much going on in the falls to be one? I really would like to learn about variegatas.

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And thank you, Tom -- that's a nice compliment. I just use my little Nikon Coolpix with the auto focus, which means I can't get good closeups, and I just sort of stand there swaying around trying to get a good shot. And I always have to take a few to get one good picture that's not out of focus...

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Name: Lucy
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irisarian
Feb 22, 2012 12:45 PM CST
I would think so. The yellow underneath the beards would be a 'zone' like you get with white on the falls of an amoena. Colors in TBs are getting too intricate for me.
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KentPfeiffer
Feb 22, 2012 9:34 PM CST

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Betja said:

Kent, I'm hoping you can go over to your post in the Amoenas thread, get into Edit, and copy everything in your neglecta post to also bring it over here so we'll have them here too. Is that possible?



Seems to have worked?

Phantom Ship - mysterious and elegant


Fabulous One - well named


Wicked Good - don't actually grow this one yet, but did see it at Mid-America last spring
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Dinner Talk - amazingly rich colors that aren't entirely captured in pictures


Endless Waltz - a little too pastel for my taste, but lovely none the less
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Mariposa Wizard - IB, the most reliable rebloomer I have
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Over Alaska - big and imposing
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Name: Betty
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Betja
Feb 22, 2012 10:06 PM CST
Fantastic! Thanks so much! And by the way, I've ordered WICKED GOOD.



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Feb 22, 2012 11:49 PM CST
Fatal Attraction
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Northwest Progress

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High Class
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Phantom Ship

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Name: Kent Pfeiffer
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KentPfeiffer
Feb 23, 2012 8:41 AM CST

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How could I forget High Class? That's another good one.
Name: Betty
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Betja
Feb 23, 2012 10:18 AM CST
They're all so beautiful! I do love neglectas...

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PollyK
Feb 23, 2012 12:42 PM CST
Beautiful pics, all!

Springcolor, don't ever worry about messing up a thread. We're all here to learn, and I learned from your post.
Name: Julia
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springcolor
Feb 23, 2012 1:52 PM CST
Thanks, but what did you learn? I missed it. Shrug!

I'm going to do some looking on the internet to understand what this is all about. What would you call this sub-groups of Iris?
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Name: Lucy
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irisarian
Feb 23, 2012 2:24 PM CST
It should be iris colors as they cam in all bearded classes.
Name: Betty
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Betja
Feb 23, 2012 4:09 PM CST
We're learning about the color classes. We all know that bearded irises are divided by height into different classifications, but there are quite a few color classifications also. Now we have learned that neglectas are bitones in the blue and purple colors only. So anytime you see an iris that has light blue standards and deeper blue falls, it is a neglecta.



Betty
Name: Julia
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springcolor
Feb 23, 2012 7:22 PM CST
Yes, I learn so much here. I did find some info that helps. All the pictures are fabulous!
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